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#61 Foxer

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:08 AM

Nice upholstery job, especially on the seats! Those seams are flawless.

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:18 AM

Here's the dash, again with the same birch veneer and "leather" as on the door panels:

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It was hard to cut the veneer to exact shape, and I missed in a couple of spots. It's not perfect, but after the time I spent trying to get a piece exactly right, I got fed up and just installed what I had come up with. The fit around the tops of the glove boxes is pretty bad, but oh well... B)

The "mother of pearl" gauge panel inlay is made from a piece of scrapbooking paper that looks sort of like mother of pearl, and the glove box handles are pieces of paper clip bent to shape. Gauge "glass" is clear 5-minute epoxy.

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 09:29 AM

Wow nice updates Harry !!! I love the detail that is involved in these builds. You must have some Kahuna's to be able to cut up one of 'em B) . Can't wait to see this thing all put together. :o

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 10:54 AM

Scratchbuilt shifter boot... in matching leather, of course! :blink:

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 01:38 PM

Nice upholstery job, especially on the seats! Those seams are flawless.


Thanks, Mike. It was a pain. Took me most of a day to upholster one seat (bottom cushion and seatback). Getting the material into all those seam lines while keeping everything stretched tight as you glue each pleat, and also keeping wrinkles out around corners, is one of those jobs where it would have been real helpful if I had an extra set of hands...

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:01 PM

Wow nice updates Harry !!! I love the detail that is involved in these builds. You must have some Kahuna's to be able to cut up one of 'em B) .


It's just a model kit... a darn expensive one, but still, just a collection of parts–until you build it. Then it becomes something to show off. Parts in a box aren't what it's all about... putting those parts together is the goal! Sure, I could buy up as many Pocher kits as I can, sit on them for several years and then resell 'em and undoubtedly make a profit... but that's not what model kits are for. I have other investments already, I don't invest in "collectible" model kits! I buy 'em to build 'em...

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:35 PM

It's just a model kit... a darn expensive one, but still, just a collection of parts–until you build it. Then it becomes something to show off. Parts in a box aren't what it's all about... putting those parts together is the goal! Sure, I could buy up as many Pocher kits as I can, sit on them for several years and then resell 'em and undoubtedly make a profit... but that's not what model kits are for. I have other investments already, I don't invest in "collectible" model kits! I buy 'em to build 'em...


Ahh I understand. I would rather build them than just look at the box art. How many Pocher kits have you built ?

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Posted 10 January 2010 - 04:44 PM

Ahh I understand. I would rather build them than just look at the box art. How many Pocher kits have you built ?


I have three finished, and two (including this one) in the works. And one "lost" years ago. Don't ask... :rolleyes:

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:25 PM

How the hey-all do you lose a Pocher kit!?
(Remember when you told me there was no demand for a Veyron kit?) :lol: :lol: :lol: :P

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 01:34 PM

How the hey-all do you lose a Pocher kit!?
(Remember when you told me there was no demand for a Veyron kit?) :lol: :lol: :lol: :P


It was "lost" sometime between when I had it half-finished and in a box, and moving to a new house. That particular box never made the move. I have to assume it was thrown out by mistake, and by the time everything had been unpacked and it was found missing... well, too late. It probably wound up buried in a landfill somewhere...

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Posted 11 January 2010 - 02:34 PM

I have three finished, and two (including this one) in the works. And one "lost" years ago. Don't ask... :lol:


Wow 5 of 'em ! Well good luck on this one and the other one :lol:

... it was found missing... well, too late. It probably wound up buried in a landfill somewhere...


Almost brings a tear to your eye :lol:

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 12:33 PM

That is incredible Harry! I think any part, Engine, Chassis or interior could have been used in the "Real or Model" section.

I have one of these kits somewhere, don't remember what model it is.

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Posted 13 January 2010 - 01:54 PM

That is incredible Harry! I think any part, Engine, Chassis or interior could have been used in the "Real or Model" section.

I have one of these kits somewhere, don't remember what model it is.

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If you ever want to sell it, let me know...

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 10:31 AM

Harry your a true modeler...and a Pocher master :P always fascinates me how you proceed on these kits, actually kit isn't really the right term they're works of art :P

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 10:06 AM

Ok... here's something I've never done before: build a cloth convertible top!

The kit supplies pre-cut cloth pieces for the top–a center section, two side pieces and a lining. The kit cloth is tan, I wanted a white top... so off to Hobby Lobby to get some off-white muslin. I used the kit cloth pieces as templates to cut my new top pieces. The borders of each piece were "hemmed" by folding them back 5mm and gluing the flaps down on the inside of the pieces. Then the three main top pieces were sewn together by hand! :lol:

And here I thought building a Pocher wheel was tedious! It took me a couple of hours to fold and glue all the "hems" and another several hours to do the sewing (since I don't know how to sew!!!).

I didn't use the kit rear window, it's way too thick... so I cut a piece of clear acetate for the window and sewed it in place into the opening I cut.

The reason I'm already working on the top this early in the game is because it attaches to the body from underneath, with screws, along the rear flange. You have to attach the top to the body before you mount the body to the chassis... and since I'm pretty much at the point where the body is going on the chassis, I had to build (and install) the top first.

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One of the biggest problems with the top is that the center section has parallel sides, but in order for the top to look good and not have a bunch of slack and wrinkles in it, the center section has to taper in width as it goes towards the back. The width of the center section has to be about 40mm narrower at the rear than at the front. A lot of trial and error goes into fitting the top sections, and even now I'm not sure how tight the top will stretch over the three hoops that make up the framework of the top. I might have to make my own hoops out of brass strip, depending on how well (or how poorly) the top fits. We'll see...

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 11:23 AM

Love the cloth top Harry !!! :lol:

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 11:57 AM

I've always wanted to tackle a Pocher kit but, man, I don't know... seems like it would be a whole lot less effort to get my 1:1 '67 Fury back in running shape!

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 12:59 PM

Do it Chuck! Building a Pocher is a wonderful experience. Its challenging and time consuming but its also very rewarding. One of the tricks to building a Pocher is Paul Koo's video. He's done one for each kit and its a must have.

I'm currently building two Pochers and have no regrets.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 03:16 PM

I've always wanted to tackle a Pocher kit but, man, I don't know... seems like it would be a whole lot less effort to get my 1:1 '67 Fury back in running shape!


Building a Pocher takes a whole lotta effort... and time... and patience. They're not really hard to build... frustrating would be a better word, because so many parts just don't fit right, and the fit of one part affects the fit of other parts down the line. And many times, you have no way of knowing how one part will affect the fit of another part until you get to the point where you're trying to attach that "other" part... and of course by then it's too late. So you either have to disassemble a ton of stuff and go back and fix the first part... or modify the last part to fit, and hope that modifying that part won't cause even more problems down the road. And so on... :unsure:

Like Rick said, there are aftermarket instructional CDs available, and I use them, but I've found that while they do warn you about a lot of problem areas you might otherwise never see coming, they also contain some mistakes.

Also... if you seriously want to try building a Pocher, keep in mind that some kits are way harder to build than others. The easiest one (and usually the cheapest one on ebay) is the 1907 Fiat race car. No doors, no windows, no fenders, etc. Of course, you'd have to have an interest in that sort of car, but if you do, and you want to try a Pocher, that one is definitely the one to start with. I guarantee you, you'll love the experience... and when you're done you'll have a real showpiece.

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 04:16 PM

If you ever want to sell it, let me know...



Hello, It's a 34 RR torpedo.

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