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#1 Joe Handley

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:35 PM

We got one or two of these kits in at work and I've never seen it before in nearly 2 decades of screwing around with plastic and 14 years of working for retailers that carry kits :P It's an AMT Olds 442 that apppears to be a well detailed, modern tool, made like the AMT '67 Impala's separate frame and all form what the box art shows!

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http://round2models..../amt/66olds-442

Was this one ever released and I just missed it, was it lost in the shuffle of the Racing Champions takeover and just never released until now under the Round 2 label, or is this a newly tooled kit from Round 2 under the AMT label:blink:

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 10:34 PM

We got one or two of these kits in at work and I've never seen it before in nearly 2 decades of screwing around with plastic and 14 years of working for retailers that carry kits :P It's an AMT Olds 442 that apppears to be a well detailed, modern tool, made like the AMT '67 Impala's separate frame and all form what the box art shows!

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http://round2models..../amt/66olds-442

Was this one ever released and I just missed it, was it lost in the shuffle of the Racing Champions takeover and just never released until now under the Round 2 label, or is this a newly tooled kit from Round 2 under the AMT label:blink:



Yeah, this has been released before in 1998 or 99 along with a convertible version. One of the best from the AMT/Ertl era before Round 2 screwed with everything. I built a hardtop a few years ago the only issue is getting the ram-air set up to line up correctly.

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One other note, according to what I've found the wide body molding that is molded in was only available with a vinyl top yet no vinyl top moldings are on the body. To build a car without a vinyl top you should remove the molding on the sides which would be a real b!t*h.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 12:15 AM

The original issue was 1998. I believe the convertible version came out a year later in 1999. You can see the beginnings of the end of AMT/Ertl in this kit if you get an original one. Gone are the road-map sized instruction sheets, and coming in are the much smaller, less detailed, and no printed words (just numbers and arrows) that we've come to expect from RC2 era kits. Also has a color chart much like an old Monogram/Revell kit where you have to constantly go back to see what letter corresponds to which color.

One of the worst things AMT did was release this kit during the "REAL CAR ON THE BOX" era. Had they used a "retouched photo of actual model" then no one would have been the wiser. But the car on the front in all it's glory is a Fire Engine Red 442 W30, and what you get in the box is a car with the trim set-up for a vinyl top. In addition to needing to remove that side trim as Slant mentioned, you would also need to go back and continue the trim for the full wheel arches, as the trim as is on the kit stops where it meets the large side trim. That whole fiasco is why I've never built the one I have.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:52 AM

As it comes out of the box the body is correct for a 442 with optional two-tone paint..given the popularity of vinyl tops during this era a two-tone car would be pretty rare.

I researched the availabilty of two-tone paint on '66 442's when I built the box-art kit, and I believe the roof was available in black or white...my memory might be failing me on that point though. I also learned that Ertl had corrected the front bumper at some point...the earliest release had an incorrect front bumper without the w-30 scoops.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 09:33 AM

I was aware of this kit... but I've never seen the drop-top variant! You learn something new every day!

Now, maybe Lindberg will finally come out with a drop-top version of their '67... what a great way to show off that shallow interior tub! :lol:

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:26 PM

The hardtop was reissued a few years ago in walmart's last batch of model kits for sale....

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:16 AM

The most-recent issue of Muscle Car Review is chock-full of Oldsmobiles , with an obvious concentration on the beloved 4-4-2 .
Among the many 4-4-2's in the issue is the one which was featured on the original issue of this kit : The fire engine-esque red with a paintedwhite roof .

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:41 AM

Were two-tones that rare? And was the second color restricted to black or white? I've seen one at local car shows that is definitely a two tone: silver over metallic gray.

#9 Joe Handley

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:45 PM

Thanks guys, I don't even remember this one being announced back then. I may have to pick one up at some point if it's that good!

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 06:07 PM

If you can find the convertible version it has a beautiful 4 barrel engine and A/C

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 01:29 AM

I have the Walmart release of the hardtop, it has the correct W-30 intake parts, and correct W-30 bumper and grille as well. I could be talked into a trade..............

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 04:16 PM

The most-recent issue of Muscle Car Review is chock-full of Oldsmobiles , with an obvious concentration on the beloved 4-4-2 .
Among the many 4-4-2's in the issue is the one which was featured on the original issue of this kit : The fire engine-esque red with a paintedwhite roof .


So are you saying AMT/Ertl airbrushed the roof red for the box art? I'm confused as to what you're referring to...the original issue, and the Wal*Mart issue the entire car including roof is red without the bulky two tone/vinyl roof trim.

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 03:28 AM

A little history here: When AMT/Ertl first issued the '66 4-4-2 in the late '90s, the first batch of kits came with the non-W30 front bumper. This was quickly corrected.

Despite its few flaws, this is a really fine kit. One can only wonder what might have been if Ertl had been allowed to continue creating superb kits like these post-sale to Racing Champions. Yeah, I know, shoulda-coulda-woulda....!

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 06:29 AM

The only flaw I can recall when building the kit was installing the dash-mounted tach properly.

Ertl's instructions show the tach being mounted in the centre of the dash which is incorrect. It should be mounted on the left side of the gauge hood. I managed to squeeze the tach in it's proper place on the box-art car (barely visible in the photos) but it's a tight squeeze due to the thickness of the vent window "glass".

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 10:17 AM

A little history here: When AMT/Ertl first issued the '66 4-4-2 in the late '90s, the first batch of kits came with the non-W30 front bumper. This was quickly corrected.

Despite its few flaws, this is a really fine kit. One can only wonder what might have been if Ertl had been allowed to continue creating superb kits like these post-sale to Racing Champions. Yeah, I know, shoulda-coulda-woulda....!

Well, hey... we actually DID get the Passionate Poncho verson of the '62 Cat, and given Round 2's penchant for 'modified reissues' of late, I wouldn't be too surprised to see this Olds get the same treatment somewhere down the road. I built this kit when it first came out, and for a wee lad I was quite proud of the result- even though I had no idea the bumper was wrong until now! ;)

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 09:01 AM

I have both of these kits in my stash. I looked them over before and noticed the chrome side trim and the moldings for the two tone top that I planned to do a vinyl top version. So I pulled out my kit and I have an early one with the non W30 Bumper. I have the convertible too and it's a nice one too.

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 01:36 PM

The most-recent issue of Muscle Car Review is chock-full of Oldsmobiles , with an obvious concentration on the beloved 4-4-2 .
Among the many 4-4-2's in the issue is the one which was featured on the original issue of this kit : The fire engine-esque red with a paintedwhite roof .

I saw that issue at Walmart-my heart skipped a beat! I had a blue convertible 1:1, black convertible top, Hurst 4 speed, tach on the console, 345 hp, manual steering and positrac, all on 14 inch wheels with wire wheel covers. All this at age 17, I paid $995 for it.

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 09:58 AM

Since I both sold and owned a couple of these puppies when they were brand new I thought I'd offer some data you might find useful about this kit...

First thing: the car on the cover and the car in the box are different models. The car on the cover is an F-85 Holiday Coupe, model 3617. The kit car in the box is a Cutlass Holiday Coupe, model 3817. Both equipped with either 4-4-2 performance option L69 which came with 3-2bbl carburetors or option L78 which included the more common Quadrajet 4bbl carburetor. Both of these packages included the red line tires shown on the box along with heavy duty wheels. A no cost white wall exchange option was also available.

Getting back to the box art, it was definitely Photoshopped. The tell-tail clue is the two-tone/vinyl top chrome separator between the windshield and the side windows that they forgot to remove when they were making the changes. From my experience, average buyers bought 4-4-2's with a vinyl top. Boy racers skipped the vinyl top but equipped theirs with heavy duty items for weekend fun at the strip. some of them ran at U.S. 30 Dragway in Indiana where I raced GT 350H Mustangs courtesy of Hertz. :wacko:

Just in case you're interested, the following interior colors were appropriate for both the coupe and convertible versions of this kit.

Parchment Pearl (Opalescent) white with matching headliner and black carpet, black with Ivory headliner and black carpet, red with Parchment Pearl headliner and dark maroon carpeting and blue (matches 66 Olds color code D Lucerne Mist) with matching headliner and dark blue carpeting.

Vinyl tops came in Black and Beige (actually an off white)

Convertible tops came in beige (Khaki comes real close), black, blue (a bit darker then the interior blue and white.

I'll be posting the actual paint chips and swatches of everything at the Resin Realm after the first of the year. The pic is of two of the pages from the Olds Dealer binder.

Hope this has been helpful to you.

Jerry
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 06:17 AM

It builds up alright.


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#20 RodneyBad

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 07:05 PM

It builds up alright.
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Awesome looking Olds..

Super nice work.