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#21 Zoom Zoom

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:01 AM

The more I think about it, the more disastrous this model appears.

You guys could go through all that work (unnecessary if Revell would quit sleeping during class) and have the body look better; but what if you do that and Revell's decals are sized/shaped for the terribly wrong rear fender profile? The problems w/this kit create a domino effect.

This effort by Revell is so...wrong. I really hope they get it right, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:06 AM

We can build space shuttles and nuclear reactors...but we can't produce an accurate scale model of a car?

This isn't a case of "We did the best we could"...

It's a case of "We don't really give a (blank)"...

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:12 AM

Here's a thought - Could we combine the '70 parts with the body and etc. from the '71 kits?

That would be one way to skin this cat so to speak.


I'm thinking, that when it comes out, I'll fix the flaws, toss it Jimmy flintsone's way (he seems to be able to produce resin cheaply) and then for about 20 bucks I'll have an accurate modern 70 Cuda AAR


If I build a '70 AAR, I'll get me a resin MPC body, a resin AAR hood and combine these bits with a shortened AMT Challenger chassis. I already have the AAR decals frm Fred Cady. Will it cost more, absolutely. Will it look better and be more accurate, absolutely. That's how I'll skin this cat.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 06:30 AM

We can build space shuttles and nuclear reactors...but we can't produce an accurate scale model of a car?

This isn't a case of "We did the best we could"...

It's a case of "We don't really give a (blank)"...


To be fair, The guys who design space shuttles, and nuclear reactors (I hope) did a lot better in school.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 07:15 AM

First AMT tells us they aren't making any new kits including the 2-in-1 70 Cuda and so we wait for the second best, the new R-M version. Now we get another funny car body.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 09:18 AM

First AMT tells us they aren't making any new kits including the 2-in-1 70 Cuda and so we wait for the second best, the new R-M version. Now we get another funny car body.

We'll never know what the AMT Cuda would have been. After the F&F and 2F2F cartoon kits, I didn't have high expectations.

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:07 PM

Just a question, do they still make tha molds here in America....or over there in China?

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 02:06 PM

What would it take to turn it into Purdhomme's Cuda?

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Posted 26 March 2007 - 02:22 PM

When one considers how much money R-M has sunk into producing two botched AAR kits, one has to believe the company would have been money ahead had it simply started from scratch with an all-new tooling in the first place.
Know what else is depressing? Thinking about what else the tooling $$$ R-M spent on this latest abortion MIGHT have gone to!


Hey Ken, Cut revell some slack about the mis-shapen body work, after all this was the first run test shot, so it's not as bad as it could have been... :shock: :lol: :D

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 04:13 AM

Strange how things turn out, not?
When Revell and RC2 both announced revamps of their existing cuda tooling, most of us modelers were moderately optimistic, like one of them will be workable, then RC2 closed the curtain on their plastic division, and now this...
sadly for us, it's most likely that this kit will sell great at the big box stores, just as its predecessor did, blowing away any chance of a decent all new accurate kit of this subject.
Better start saving your pennies for an original MPC 'Cuda or a resin re-pop theireof.

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Posted 30 March 2007 - 05:16 AM

Strange how things turn out, not?
When Revell and RC2 both announced revamps of their existing cuda tooling, most of us modelers were moderately optimistic, like one of them will be workable, then RC2 closed the curtain on their plastic division, and now this...
sadly for us, it's most likely that this kit will sell great at the big box stores, just as its predecessor did, blowing away any chance of a decent all new accurate kit of this subject.
Better start saving your pennies for an original MPC 'Cuda or a resin re-pop theireof.

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It's almost sickeningly true-models of subjects like the 'Cuda, even rendered poorly, will probably sell well at the big box stores. Remember when we were told that sales of the awful Monogram 1/24 scale '69 Camaro remained excellent regardless of how much better the new-tool '69 is/was?

Though Revell could very well take this poor 'Cuda and make it worse, they manage to stifle a lot of point-of-sale purchases w/some pretty horrid boxart and boxart models :roll: It's as if they want the kit to tank :cry: The Revell Uptown models and their Ferrari Superamerica (US boxart) are three great examples of how not to do boxart, and they're three of Revell's latest.

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Posted 05 April 2007 - 02:22 PM

I noticed the same ting...but I have to honestly say that I will but a couple...It's not exactly right but it will be the only 70 out there...

So I'll buy one nd if it goes together well I imaging I'll buy another..

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 03:59 AM

Man, how we love to trash the manufacturers when they don't live up to our expectations. Note I said the MANUFACTURERS, not the PRODUCT. Manufacturers make mistakes too.

The fact of life is this: every manufacturer of plastic models has its crown jewels and its turkeys as well. Vaunted manufacturers like Hasegawa and Tamiya have some kits that don't quite live up to the hype of the reputations.

When I reviewed the original kit in SAE (I can say that here, SAE no longer exists) in 1995, I also critically panned the Lindberg '40 Ford coupe (which has just been reissued) and the AMT '65 Pontiac 2+2. All three are not examples of bad people or bad manufacturers; they are examples of product planning that did not quite reach the standard of excellence.

Should Revell have done a new-tool '70 Cuda kit? Absolutely. Pre-RC2 AMT/Ertl would have done just that - in fact, that's why we got an all-new '70 Camaro kit instead of the 1990-vintage rehash that was never quite right. An all-new '70 Cuda could be designed to produce a Hemi, a 340, an AAR, a droptop, a 440, and with some creative toolmaking, a '71. Like I said before, it would be an out of the park home run.

Perhaps a post-RC2 AMT/Ertl would fulfill just such a wish.

Just my .02, amigos.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 10:22 AM

Well said Larry!

I heard a little tidbit at our last club meeting that Lindberg/Hawk was in the running to make a bid for RC2. Let's hope so...........

My understanding is that there are some real car/model guys in the bunch at Lindberg, so here's hoping we'll get a decent '70 'Cuda (among other things) from them. :wink:


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Posted 10 April 2007 - 10:51 AM

Bill,

RC2 themselves are not for sale. They are dumping Racing Champions (the company they started with) Ertl, AMT, and JoyRide Studios. RC2 is staying in the toy and baby/infant business.

I have also heard that J.Lloyd (parent company of Hawk and Lindberg) is in the running to buy AMT from RC2. They have one visionary already - Lindberg/Hawk head honcho Ernie Petit. Hopefully, should they be successful at acquiring AMT, they will be able to reunite some of the visionary car guys that made AMT/Ertl a force to be reckoned with - guys like John Mueller, Dave Carlock, Tom Haverlind, and the rest of the engineering crew that put such passion into the last real AMT/Ertl kits.

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Posted 10 April 2007 - 11:17 AM

Bill, RC2 themselves are not for sale. They are dumping Racing Champions (the company they started with) Ertl, AMT, and JoyRide Studios. RC2 is staying in the toy and baby/infant business.


Whoops! :oops: I meant to say the Ertl/AMT plastic division.......... In my enthusiasm of what I hope takes place, I got carried away! :mrgreen:

There are some other cars besides the '70 'Cuda I'd like to see from them if they take over.........but that's the subject for another thread. :wink:


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Posted 29 September 2007 - 08:15 AM

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Got this from Model Roundup. Better than the original, but still incorrect. Prepare to be disappointed. B)

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 10:46 AM

Wondered about that, now I know not to waste my money..........................again B)

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 10:50 AM

Figures!! With the way things are in the hobby now, I guess we'll never see an accurate 1970 'Cuda ;)

Oh well.......guess I better treasure that MPC '70 'Cuda I've got stashed away........ B)


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Posted 29 September 2007 - 10:55 AM

Figures!! With the way things are in the hobby now, I guess we'll never see an accurate 1970 'Cuda :(

Oh well.......guess I better treasure that MPC '70 'Cuda I've got stashed away........ :unsure:


I have one of these new issues on order...if I get really ambitious, maybe I'll try and swap parts with the Revell '71.

I have a couple of the MPC '70s in my stash, one built, one unbuilt....and I've got the Perry's Resin AAR parts to use with an MPC '74 to convert to a '70 eventually...