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#61 gtx6970

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:07 AM

See what I mean,

it all depends on the angles and the  lighting as to waht it loosk like. But I keep coming back to Candy red over a gold base.

 

This quandy has kept me from building this car for quite some time , even with the Cady decals I've had for well over 10 years. Sadly Al  passed away a few years back and had I known he was going  to be on the grounds when his 66-67 Charger was put in the Chrysler Museum a few years back,,,,, I would have been there to ask.

 

I mean it's only about 5 hours each way.


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Posted 26 April 2013 - 10:39 AM

 

When did the Chrysler Turbine cars debut? '63?

 

It does look like Turbine Bronze in the sunlight.  :wub:

The actual Turbine cars?  Oct 63 to Oct 64. 

 

Turbine Bronze the color?  paintref.com says model years 67 and 68., TCP Global says it was added as a spring '66 color. 

 

It sure would look purdy and I wouldn't fault anyone for using it, but I gotta think the candy red/orange/reddish-orange/orangeish-red over gold makes the most sense in 1964. Any paint shop in the country could do it.  But tracking down some paint that's being used on a concept car whose bodies are being built and finished by Ghia in Italy, even with factory connections?   Mmmm, not so much....  



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Posted 26 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

 

When did the Chrysler Turbine cars debut? '63?

 

It does look like Turbine Bronze in the sunlight.  :wub:

 

The "Frostfire Metallic" AKA Turbine Bonze paint color would have been available starting in '63 and with the factory support  Drag teams were getting back then it's very possible they used it. I'm sure any paint shop could have mixed it.  I doubt Chrysler would be sending any the 50 street driven Turbine cars on the road across America back to Italy for touch up.  Of course that doesn't rule out some custom mix or candy color like others have suggested. 



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 10:04 AM

I can't find any hard evidence of this "Frostfire Metallic" other than in internet articles about the Turbine Cars.  What was the factory code for it? 



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

I can't find any hard evidence of this "Frostfire Metallic" other than in internet articles about the Turbine Cars.  What was the factory code for it? 

 

I don't know Brett,  I'm no Turbine Car expert. I'll take a leap of faith and say that Frostfire Metallic and Turbine Bronze are one and the same color so the mix formula would also be the same.  If there were 50 Cars produced and painted that color then that's the evidence that a paint formula existed for it in '63, so that they could be repaired and repainted if need be.   I doubt Frostfire Metallic was in the 63-64 standard paint books but I'm sure the factory code and or paint formula could be had with a phone call.  I'd even bet there's a '63 Dealer Service Bulletin for it somewhere.  

 

Back then the factory sponsored Drag guys got all kinds of goodies, special engines, aluminum stamped parts, you name it .... not available to your average Joe.   It not really a stretch to think they could have got some Turbine Car paint or the formula for if they wanted it.  I'm not going to "bet the farm" that's what they used, I'm just saying its a reasonable possibility that they could have used it in '64.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 07:39 AM

Using a Turbin car as an example may not be the best coice. Remember those cars were tooled and built in Italy , and my tells me  they're not a Mopar color

 

myself I am leaning more towards a candy red more and more.



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:35 AM

"Turbine Bronze" was available as a 'regular' colour from c.1964 - mid-1966 or 1967 .



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Posted 28 April 2013 - 12:25 PM

I've yet to find any evidence of Turbine Bronze or "Frostfire Metallic" prior to MY67 or late MY66 except for the Turbine cars' Wikipedia page

 

1964 would have been the height of popularity of candy paint jobs, you see candy paint on probably 90% of drag cars of that era.  Any custom painter could have laid down a quick candy paint job on the car.  This car would have already been racing for the bulk of the season before the Turbine cars were unveiled to the public.  

 

We're all free to do our own research and make up our own minds.

 

Eckstrand's 63 car, a Dodge Dart wagon, appears to wear the same color, and the Turbine car wasn't even greenlit at that time.

 

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 02:49 PM

The latest issue of Mopar Action  has the answer to the availablitiy of this colour in the Reference Restorations section ; and if I can get off my lazy butt , I'll look up the answer ...

 

EDIT ( 28-04-2013 @ 2215 HRS ) :

Here's a 1967 Paint Chip Chart , courtesy of Hamtramck Historical Registry 1970 :

 

http://www.hamtramck...html?load_img=1

 

Note that Turbine Bronze is on the right column , near the bottom of the chart .

 

EDIT #2 ( 2220 HRS ) :

Click the  "Next Page" icon , as the colour is on page 2 .


Edited by 1972coronet, 28 April 2013 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 12:23 PM

1383455_742283225797074_1678742263_n.jpgi'll be getting one



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 01:42 PM

I was hoping Round 2 would revive the idea for this kit when they took over Lindberg. Hoping it comes to market this time!



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:03 PM

i hope so i guess time will tell



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 02:11 PM

Was the only Lindberg item with a release date


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:56 PM

Early '64 with the Stage III 426 Maxie ?



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:17 AM

Early '64 with the Stage III 426 Maxie ?

 

I was wondering the same thing, is this a reissue of the Color Me Gone Max Wedge kit or the Ramchargers Hemi. I would rather see the Max Wedge version.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 03:53 AM

 

I was wondering the same thing, is this a reissue of the Color Me Gone Max Wedge kit or the Ramchargers Hemi. I would rather see the Max Wedge version.

It's parts from the Dodges combined with the Belvedere kit.  Never been offered in this form before, the Plymouths were only done in street and NASCAR versions. 

 

With a hardtop body and 4-light grill, the engine should be the Max Wedge. The Hemi Plymouths were almost all post sedans.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:19 AM

Bring it on. Hope they release it this time. So many more cars that could be done with this kit, be it 64's or any early to mid 60's Mopars with the chassis' in these kits.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 04:33 AM

Nice!  I'll have to pick up one of these.  :)



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:50 AM

Someone give me the codes here today or so and i will get to our PPG paint computer and 

compare formulas

 

And count me in for a few of these also 

 

MIchael


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:20 AM

Are the rear wheels newly created? I think all of the previous Lindberg '64 Mopar S/S kits included steel rear wheels only.