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#21 AzTom

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 03:29 PM

The 1155's cab is a little bit larger in all dimensions (having a 1:1 1155 handy helped me out there B) ) but parts of it might be usable. Tires from the Ertl kit are also a bit larger on the back, but close enough to work. The big thing will be the transaxle, the tin, and of course the Long Life MM engine. MM had an engine design all their own for most of their existence.


I would have thought the MF1155 was about the same size as the G1000 but I have never see the two next to each other. You could go big scale, Ertl made the G1000 in 1/16 scale diecast.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:51 PM

They are pretty close in size, the G1000 being just a tad smaller in most dimensions. A few inches here and there mostly. I might go the big-scale route too, the local Agco retailer can usually order the 1:16 Ertl stuff.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:50 AM

The G1000 has not been made for years and are quite pricey now. Spec-cast is making a very nice 1355 and 955 but they look like a different design.

Is the cab on that a Hiniker? Ertl has made several 1/16 tractors with that cab.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 05:47 PM

The 955 and 1355 were products of WFE meddling with it's 'heritage' brands. They were basically MM's Long Life engine and front axle mated to Oliver's transaxle and three-point system, a design which debuted with the first White-branded farm tractor. The 1355 was sold in White, Oliver, and Cockshutt livery as the 2270, and the 955 was also sold by Oliver and Cockshutt. They were the last trace of MM's engines, as White Motor Company did not believe in building their own engines. After the old names were dropped in favor of White, WFE bought its engines from outside manufacturers.

The cab on my G1000 is from Full Vision, Inc. I'm not sure if it was made by Hiniker, produced under licence, or anything like that, but it does look very similar. Not sure how they'd compare size-wise, though.

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 07:01 PM

Cut my grass with a '52 8n that my maternal grandfather bought new! I have the original bill of sale. I paid more for it to the estate than it sold for new. oh well it's still in the family!!

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:11 PM



I ride this around the yard sometimes.It was up to the frame in mud when found.

Is that a speedex? I love garden tractors.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 07:44 PM

Now we need a kit! B)

Thepartsbox has a nice 1/25 scale tractor. it's pretty generic, so you could easily detail it up as a massie or ford or whatever.
it was a fun build, with minimal parts and a lot of scope to add details. i added lights and foot controls.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 04:01 AM

Looks like a Ferguson 35.


A number of the older Ford tractors were Harry Ferguson designs.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 05:33 AM

A number of the older Ford tractors were Harry Ferguson designs.

The 3 point hitch and the hydraulic system were the only parts that were designed by Ferguson. The rest was done in house by Ford. The tractor pictured is a Ferguson, most likely a TO20.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 06:45 AM

The 3 point hitch and the hydraulic system were the only parts that were designed by Ferguson. The rest was done in house by Ford. The tractor pictured is a Ferguson, most likely a TO20.


the 3 point hitch that is on the n series tractors are a "Ferguson" 3 point is what i think there called?...but b/w ferguson and ford they had a lawsuit against ford for patent infringments but they battled out for several years and ended up settling for half the original suit....due to the fact most of the patents by ferguson expired!

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

The 3 point hitch was the Ferguson System. On the 9 and 2 N tractors, there was a badge under the Ford badge stating that it was equipped with the Ferguson System. The badge was chevron shaped. Not all N series tractors had the 3 pint hitch on them, though. Most of those were tractors used for non-agricultural use, mainly industrila and construction. One of the more well known was the BNO 20 and BNO 40 Aircraft Tug. Versons without the 3 point did not have the Ferguson badge. Also, 8N tractors did not have the badge. Up to late '47, Ferguson did own the rights and sales distribution for the factory implements, which was big part of the split and later, the lawsuit.
Something that should be noted, the N seris Fords were not the first tractor to have what became the 3 point Ferguson System. David Brown was the first porduction tractor, plus Ferguson did make some conversions for the earlier Dagenham built Fordsons. Also, before the official split, Ferguson had actually started production of his own Ferguson tractors (the TE20) in England, essentialy in direct competition with Ford. It's common misconception that those tractors were built with Fords blessing, that is not the case. It was also another part that caused the split.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 08:54 AM

I own two Harry Ferguson's and both are dependable work horses.

A 1950 TO 20 I've had about 5 years that I only use to mow the grass & pasture ...

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and a 1952 TO 30 I've had over 25 years that does everything else.

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PS in May 1936 Harry Ferguson made the Ferguson Model A tractor. He produced the TE20 in England starting in the autumn of 1946. Production of a US version, the TO20, started in October 1948. He also developed the first four-wheel drive Formula One car, the Ferguson P99.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 09:32 AM

PS in May 1936 Harry Ferguson made the Ferguson Model A tractor.

That's the one I was talking about. It's commonly called the "Black Tractor", due to being painted black. David Brown manufactuered it for Ferguson.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:35 PM



Looks like a Ferguson 35.

its actually ferguson  to30 or to20  the to35 had two sticks the shifter and a high low the 30 is a single stick like the one in the origanal pcture heres a pic of a to35 1.1 i recently restored 

 

 

 

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:50 PM

a quick way to tell the differnce between a ford and a ferguson is by the grill heres a pic of a 8n ford and a ferguson to35Attached File  DSCN6295.JPG   153.14KB   9 downloadsAttached File  DSCN5961.JPG   151.12KB   9 downloads



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 04:05 AM

a quick way to tell the differnce between a ford and a ferguson is by the grill heres a pic of a 8n ford and a ferguson to35attachicon.gifDSCN6295.JPGattachicon.gifDSCN5961.JPG

 

Actually the first pic is a jubilee grill...while the other one is what most other people are familiar with!...

 

Next time ill get a pic of my grandads teo20!



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 01:23 PM

 

Actually the first pic is a jubilee grill...while the other one is what most other people are familiar with!...

 

Next time ill get a pic of my grandads teo20!

no its a orginal ford 8n bought new in 54 and been hard at work eversince



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:12 PM

no its a orginal ford 8n bought new in 54 and been hard at work eversince

The last 8Ns were built in '52. Technically, the Jubilee tractors are '53 only, coinciding with Ford "Golden Jubilee" 50th anniversary. What you looks to be a 600 Series, introduced in '54.



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:59 PM

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This is what an 8N looks like.

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This is the current condition of my 8N (an early '48 model) that's currently under restoration after being in my possession since 1982.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:33 PM

It resembles a Ford Adian in a way.