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#1 Gluhead

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:43 PM

Here's one I keep going back to when I'm waiting for this or that to move forward on something else.

A "what if" build...what if Dodge had taken the A100 and given us a full-framed, cab/chassis-only to bridge the gap between the standard van-based pickup and the semi-tractor L700? Since it's based on the A cab rather than the L but is heavier duty...why not call it an A500? Works for me, anyway. :D I'll build it as though someone got hold of one of these and restored it with a little hot rod flavor for hauling around a old Dart or 'Cuda weekend racer. Should be fun.

First hurdle was the frame. Not wanting to over-think it too much, I based it loosely on the design of the kits "frame" (these were unibody in 1:1). Lots of Evergreen stock later, I have this:

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Here's the body, hacked down to just the cab. After installing a one of the leftover bed sides as a new rear cab wall, the new cab corners were glued in well over-sized, and whittled down to match the contours. They still need a little fine tuning yet.

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Thanks to bill_rules for sending me a seriously glue-bombed Lil' Red Wagon from which I was able to scavenge the floor. Here it is cut down, cleaned up, and given new bits at the rear to tie it in with the cut-down cab.

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This shot shows why that was necessary...couldn't leave this area under the back of the cab looking unfinished.

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Finally, a mock-up to show the overall length of this lil' beast.

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Cheers,
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:53 PM

What a neat idea. I like how you think ;)

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

That is going to be very cool.

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:27 PM

Very neat, one question what kit are the wheels from?

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Posted 18 September 2012 - 03:57 PM

Thanks, guys.

Nick, I'm cheating big time with the rolling stock on this one. They're just the excellent slots from the later Revell Maz Willys, wrapped with the Goodyear AirWheel tires from the stock '41 Chevy pickup kit. I'm going to dress them down a bit...either dullcoat or stripped and painted white. I'd like to catch the hot rod attitude, but just hints of it.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

Brad (gasser59) turned me on to using printing plate. I gotta say, I think I'm hooked. It's got a great balance between workability and durability. Thanks Brad! I think this is going to end up pulling another stalled project or two down from the shelves.

For now, I'm using it to get the rear suspension started. This stuff rolls so nicely that the spring eyes were a breeze.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:22 PM

Coming along great !

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:28 PM

This is very cool ! I really like where you are headed with this .

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 03:32 AM

I figured the printing plate would be too thin to use for the whole spring pack, but I do prove myself wrong often so I gave it a whirl. Yep, too thin.

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So I went back to plan A. :D

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The ride height is a little too high so I'll see if I can worm the spring hanger off the frame and move it up a bit to compensate. If it gets ugly I'll just have to make a new one (no big deal).

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:52 AM

Cool idea, beautiful scratch-manship. Definitely a pleasure to watch the progress.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:02 AM

Question.. what did you make the plan A springs out of???? they look great.. well the whole idea is great!!

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:50 AM

Thanks guys, it's much appreciated.

Carter, I use for sale signs for my styrene stock unless I need some real thickness. I'm not positive, but I'd say this particular sheet is probably about .020...could be .015. Whichever it is, it's hard to beat 97 cents a sheet. :D

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 07:42 PM

Cool idea! What do you have in mind for the bed?

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

Lucas, it'll have a scratched racer wedge on the back when all is said and done.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

This being a phantom AND one that was supposedly dragged out from hiding and rebuilt by a hot rodder, I could have used just about any rear end in this thing that I wanted. But I figure, I've scratchbuilt the frame and springs, and I'll be scratchbuilding pretty much the whole front end...I may as well keep in theme and scratchbuild the rear end, too. :D

I love 1/8" thick sheet stock. It's a bear on the Dremel, but it's such a good blank canvas.

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Leaving a "handle" on it to make it easy to work with.

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More 1/8" stock, turned down to a "button" (the stalk was just there to mount it in the Dremel).

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Mounted that to a piece of thin sheet and shaped it down to form a lip.

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Scraping the tubes into shape.

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I'll have the housing all finished up yet here in a bit, and hopefully be able to whittle out a 3rd member tonight.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 10:30 AM

i have a feeling im going to be learning a lot with this build..... ill be watching very closely. ive never seen a scrach build rearend its awsome!!!!.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 12:25 PM

That an interesing progress! I will take a look over your shoulder. Like the Dodge (sweet car) and your idea is coming out great i think!
Go on ;)

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

Nice work. I really like what you are doing.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:24 PM

Beautiful craftsmanship !

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 05:21 PM

Thanks, guys. Glad you like it.

While looking for something else, I noticed that I had an extra 8 3/4 3rd member. I'm terrible about robbing parts but have been trying to be better about it and just make stuff instead, if I can...but since this was genuinely an extra, I figured I had better use it. :D

Besides that, I got the other half of the housing shaped up, and installed the tubing on the ends that matches up with the holes in the wheelbacks. It'll get brake drums and backing plates in a couple days (my brother is saving the day on these, and casting up a few that I did for another project), so for now it's on to making the spring pads, u bolts, and getting some shocks and mounts in there.

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