Jump to content


New Moebius Ford Pick-ups 1971 Ranger XLT AND 1969 Custom SWB

Moebius 67-71 Ford F100s

  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
845 replies to this topic

#101 Art Anderson

Art Anderson

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,907 posts

Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:57 AM

Guys, if there is one thing I can say about Moebius and model car/truck kits: They are NOT in the business of one-version-only "One Hit Wonder" model kits. This ride could get very interesting!!!

Art

#102 Aaronw

Aaronw

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,477 posts
  • Location:North Coast of California
  • Full Name:Aaron

Posted 22 October 2012 - 06:51 AM

The AMT '79 Ford is an F-350. Ford still used the solid front axle on the '67-'72s. I'm thinking the TTB didn't come along until '80 with the new design,but I could be wrong on that.


Thanks


Continuing on the what if thoughts, the bed from the 53, 55 or 56 kits could be used for a stepside with these kits correct? I understand there was little to no change in the bed from the 50s to the 70s.

#103 mikemodeler

mikemodeler

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,947 posts
  • Location:NASCAR Country!
  • Full Name:Classified

Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:30 AM

Thanks


Continuing on the what if thoughts, the bed from the 53, 55 or 56 kits could be used for a stepside with these kits correct? I understand there was little to no change in the bed from the 50s to the 70s.


Aaron,

If I am not mistaken, the stepside bed was the same from 1955 through 1979. When they went to the squared body in 1980 Ford redesigned the stepside to reflect the new body style.

#104 mikemodeler

mikemodeler

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,947 posts
  • Location:NASCAR Country!
  • Full Name:Classified

Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:38 AM

Guys, if there is one thing I can say about Moebius and model car/truck kits: They are NOT in the business of one-version-only "One Hit Wonder" model kits. This ride could get very interesting!!!

Art


Thanks Art, now I gotta tell my youngest that she won't be going to college because some model kit company is bringing out a bunch of different versions of a model kit that I have waited 40 years for!!!!! ;) :D

Actually, that is great news as I , like many others, have multiple builds milling about in my head. I sure hope they do give us some variations of this kit and at some point a 4wd version!

I can see this truck with the Midnite Cowboy wrecker bed, a Modelhaus utility bed, a scratchbuilt flatbed, a step side bed, maybe even a scratchbuilt dump bed! If I can, I will even incorporate the snow plow from the new Revell GMC kit!

#105 Fat Brian

Fat Brian

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 934 posts
  • Location:Stanley, NC
  • Full Name:Brian Croft

Posted 22 October 2012 - 02:14 PM

Thanks


Continuing on the what if thoughts, the bed from the 53, 55 or 56 kits could be used for a stepside with these kits correct? I understand there was little to no change in the bed from the 50s to the 70s.

Aaron,

If I am not mistaken, the stepside bed was the same from 1955 through 1979. When they went to the squared body in 1980 Ford redesigned the stepside to reflect the new body style.



I think the only change from the fifties style bed was that the top rail was flattened out at some point instead of having the angled rail from the fifties model. But this article in Hemmings seems to suggest that the angled rails were still used in 1971.

http://blog.hemmings...971-ford-f-250/

#106 kataranga

kataranga

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,295 posts
  • Location:Saint John, NB
  • Full Name:Chris Martin

Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:44 PM

For 1953-1979 the bed is essentially the same, with some actually rather important differences that probably won't show up in scale. Once into the '73 restyle, the bed started getting a little bit taller and a little bit wider. For instance, a tailgate from a 73+ bed won't fit on, say, a 56 bed. I believe that for the 1980 restyle, the rails were flattened and the fenders changed (finally). This bed was used from 80-87 (87 had one-year-only fenders). Stepside beds were dropped from 88-91, reappeared again for 92-09 and now here we are without them again... :(

#107 cwobeaman

cwobeaman

    MCM Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 29 posts
  • Location:NYC/Long Island
  • Full Name:CWO3 Shannon Beaman USMC

Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:48 PM

Awesome news!

#108 Aaronw

Aaronw

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,477 posts
  • Location:North Coast of California
  • Full Name:Aaron

Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

Thanks for the info on the step side beds.

#109 N~8~Ball

N~8~Ball

    MCM Regular

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 91 posts
  • Location:Greensburg PA
  • Full Name:Nate A Vamosi

Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:17 AM

This is such great news!! I cant wait to get a few of these in my paws.. :D :D Special thanks to EVERYONE who had a hand in making this forward step in the hobby happen.. It's much appreciated..

#110 Chuck Most

Chuck Most

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,912 posts
  • Location:Ithaca, Michiganistan
  • Full Name:^See Above

Posted 28 October 2012 - 11:08 AM

Six pages... and the kit doesn't even exist in the real world yet. Don't tell me these things won't be a hit. B)

#111 charlie8575

charlie8575

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,612 posts
  • Location:Marlborough, Ma.
  • Full Name:Charlie

Posted 28 October 2012 - 12:58 PM

We have announced the first of Our Ford Pick-up truck releases at Toledo over the week end. That truck will be a 1971 8 ft bed Ranger XLT - Big Block automatic 2 wheel drive.
What we didn't show at Toledo is the second kit. This will be a Model King Exclusive. it will be a 1969 Custom Cab short Bed six cylinder stick 2 wheel drive.

Mock-ups for both kits are being done now. I hope to have them in my hands before Thanksgiving. Once we have reviewed mock-ups and made any corrections needed I'd like to hope that tooling will be under way by Christmas.
If all goes well we could have first test shots by mid February next year. Our hopes are to have kits on store shelves before the end of the second quarter of 2013

Wish I had a pile of great photos, but these kits are only 3d computer files at this time.
As soon as the Mock-ups get here I promise that I'll put photos up..

Thanks,
Dave


Sign me up for one each. It's nice to be working again, even if only part-time, so I can do that.

Believe me, I WILL find uses for each of those kits.

Charlie Larkin

#112 charlie8575

charlie8575

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,612 posts
  • Location:Marlborough, Ma.
  • Full Name:Charlie

Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:28 PM

Ref: TTB appeared in 1980 mentioned a couple of places on P. 5.

What is/a TTB?

Charlie Larkin

#113 Rob Hall

Rob Hall

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,036 posts
  • Location:Phoenix, Arizona
  • Full Name:Robert Hall

Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:10 PM

Ref: TTB appeared in 1980 mentioned a couple of places on P. 5.

What is/a TTB?

Charlie Larkin


Some sort of Ford truck suspension, I presume...they had Twin I-Beam...TTB is probably Twin Torque Beam or Twin Truck Beam?

Edit 'TTB' is Twin Traction Beam according to the Wikipedia entry on the F-series.

Edited by Rob Hall, 28 October 2012 - 02:12 PM.


#114 kataranga

kataranga

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,295 posts
  • Location:Saint John, NB
  • Full Name:Chris Martin

Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:55 PM

Twin Traction Beam is correct, sir. Basically Ford took the Twin I-Beam suspension and integrated a drive axle into it. Improves ride quality and still offers off-road capability. Although most serious off-roaders replace it with a solid axle.

#115 Fat Brian

Fat Brian

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 934 posts
  • Location:Stanley, NC
  • Full Name:Brian Croft

Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

The twin I beam suspension came out in 65 for the two wheel drive trucks but the 4x4 trucks still used a solid front axle until 80 when the Twin Traction Beam or TTB front end was designed. Basically they took a Dana 44 center section and stuck it one of the I beams and then ran a drive shaft out of each end to the front wheels.

#116 Longbox55

Longbox55

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,585 posts
  • Location:Danville Il
  • Full Name:Bill Burmeister

Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

Neither suspension was really very good. Poor handling, exessive camber loss through the suspension travel arc, exessive tire wear, pus premature wearout problems in the radius arm bushings, center pivots, and balljoint issues.. Putting wide tires on aggrivates the problems. About the only real positive about it was that it's dirt simple and very strong. But on the other hand, from a mechanics point of veiw, good money can be made servicing either one, but especially the TTB.

#117 Fat Brian

Fat Brian

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 934 posts
  • Location:Stanley, NC
  • Full Name:Brian Croft

Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:29 PM

I had an 89 F-150 4x4 with TTB and it was really bad. It was impossible to align and burned through tires every five to ten thousand miles. Everything on the front end needed to be replaced but by the time I owned it that would have pretty much totalled the truck.

#118 Rob Hall

Rob Hall

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,036 posts
  • Location:Phoenix, Arizona
  • Full Name:Robert Hall

Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

Neither suspension was really very good. Poor handling, exessive camber loss through the suspension travel arc, exessive tire wear, pus premature wearout problems in the radius arm bushings, center pivots, and balljoint issues.. Putting wide tires on aggrivates the problems. About the only real positive about it was that it's dirt simple and very strong. But on the other hand, from a mechanics point of veiw, good money can be made servicing either one, but especially the TTB.

I'm sure the Twin I-Beam will be adequate for 1:25th scale though...:)

#119 Chuck Most

Chuck Most

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,912 posts
  • Location:Ithaca, Michiganistan
  • Full Name:^See Above

Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:52 AM

Neither suspension was really very good. Poor handling, exessive camber loss through the suspension travel arc, exessive tire wear, pus premature wearout problems in the radius arm bushings, center pivots, and balljoint issues.. Putting wide tires on aggrivates the problems. About the only real positive about it was that it's dirt simple and very strong. But on the other hand, from a mechanics point of veiw, good money can be made servicing either one, but especially the TTB.

I guess the sales pitch for it was that it was a heavy duty design, and could carry more weight than a typical coil-spring or torsion bar IFS. As to why having a heavier duty front suspension on the FRONT of a 2WD truck would be needed, never sure on that...

I've never had any issues with the TIB setups I've had except for on my current truck- but then again it's a year shy of being eligible for an Antique Vehicle plate, so it's bound to need some work by now. I've always had worse luck with those rear shackles rusting out.

#120 lapazleo

lapazleo

    MCM Ohana

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 597 posts
  • Location:great lakes region
  • Full Name:Leo Bishop

Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:33 AM

Bout time one of the most popular vehicles was modeled. Hard to believe so few F series pu's were put out in model form. For that matter pick ups in general and where are all the diesel pu's to haul car trailers. Another homerun for Moebius!