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Chopped '50 Olds fastback: Jus' a lil' closer...Oct.1


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#1 Ace-Garageguy

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

Not a lot to see yet. I've been poring over just exactly how to do this ever since the day the Olds kit hit the shelves. I've watched how some of you guys have approached it, and I'm starting to cut.

First trick will be opening the doors and decklid on both bodies. I think it will allow me to avoid some of the delicate seam work and re-scribing of door cut-lines, and allow a chop more in keeping with 1:1. I'm going after a roofline that flows better than the original, which appears a little hump-backed to me, so this may take awhile.

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First panel fits back in the hole pretty well. 5 to go.

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Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 01 October 2014 - 03:45 PM.


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Posted 25 November 2012 - 10:28 AM

Ooh, i like where this is going.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:22 AM

What he said.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 11:47 AM

So you're whacking the roof from the '51 Chevy Fleetline? This is going to be cool (and difficult). Hope to see more!

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:26 PM

Lookin good.

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:27 PM

Glad to see YOU are chopping this one, Bill. I've had a '51 sitting awhile waiting for my torch ... and my thinking about it. I'll be sitting patiently watching how you approach it.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:29 AM

First off, FORGET what I said about opening the doors and decks first. Noooooooo. It became apparent pretty quick that I'd have a floppy, unmanageable mess by doing that.

HOWEVER, cutting down the rear door cut-lines looked like the right way to go, as it still eliminated having to re-scribe them. During careful measuring, it began to look like that would be a good place to go across the roof panel too. I've never actually worked on one of these in 1:1, but I knew the rear outer fenders on these cars bolt on, so I started looking for photos of where the seams are, and how they're hidden. That suggested the most appropriate place to cut the rear bodies and minimize detail-loss and bodywork.

The photos show pretty clearly where I made the cuts, and the remarkable thing is that cutting as shown, the sections practically jump back together. The drip rails, side moldings and roof-line still flow with no wonkiness (if you position everything carefully) and the Chevy roof is only a small bit wider at this point than the Olds. There is sufficient thickness of material in the plastic Chevy roof section to smooth the transition.

The cuts and fill-work necessary on the rear fenders are far enough from the scribed trunk lines to avoid getting into them, and the fill on the sides of the quarters is confined to the body-line crease. I'm very happy with how this worked out, and the Olds roof section fits back into the Chevy nicely too.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:35 AM

now that looks pretty good, now dont forget to post pictures of chevy with the olds roof.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:43 AM

That does look like a heck of a good fit.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 05:47 AM

That's some very nice surgery Bill! I'm thinking about doing this conversion myself at some point. Would it be possible to just swap the entire roof from the Chevy onto the Olds? I'm thinking about making the cuts like you have on the rear section. But,extending the cut at the body crease on up to the front fenders and swapping the cowl out also.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:16 AM

I like this, so I'll keep watching.. :)

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:31 AM

Love it.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:30 AM

the hands of a surgeon....a plastic surgeon. :)

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:46 AM

Nice.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 09:12 AM

This is gunna be cool,looks great so far! Can't wait to see more :D

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:14 AM

now that looks pretty good, now dont forget to post pictures of chevy with the olds roof.


As you wish, sir. A Chevy business coupe. Looks like a good basis for a gasser to me.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:22 AM

................................Would it be possible to just swap the entire roof from the Chevy onto the Olds? I'm thinking about making the cuts like you have on the rear section. But,extending the cut at the body crease on up to the front fenders and swapping the cowl out also.


It would be possible and I considered that at one point, but being basically lazy and wanting to avoid as much un-necessary work as possible, I opted for this solution. I'm not all that fond of the windshield shape of the Chevy, which is part of the reason I decided against swapping the assembly as you suggest. It doesn't look quite like the one-piece-windshield opening on the Olds kit (as opposed to the divided glass in the Chevy), which does have the right shape for the car. Doing the swap as you suggest would require more fill work on the doors as well, but the big thing I have against it is how well the hoods fit on both the Chevy and the Olds kits. Swapping the cowl sections along with the roofs would open two cans of worms getting the rear of the hoods of both cars to fit properly again.

Edited by Ace-Garageguy, 26 November 2012 - 04:26 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:43 AM

Looks great, Bill. I'd been eye-balling mine and had come to the same cuts in my head, although I'd also considered carrying the thought through to detaching the whole rear quarter in the process, thinking it would be easier to finish up the bodywork on the upper quarter. I was probably just overthinking it, though.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing how you finish them out. Should be killer.

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:08 PM

Very cool Bill! B)

Great work so far :)

So is your plan to bond it all back together, and then chop the roof?

Edited by jeffs396, 26 November 2012 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2012 - 01:12 PM

It's like Kung Fu razor saw cutting! Nicely done.