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#1 Longbox55

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:11 PM

I recently did some testing with the Prism effect clear from the Duplicolor Paint Shop line. Here's the results.

Here's the product in question.

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This is what it looks like in the can.

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I did 6 tests, all using Duplicolor FP101 primer as the base. 4 of the tests were done using Perfect Match for the next coat, the final 2 were done using Testors and Tamiya hobby laquers. All the base coats were done with spray cans.

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Chrysler GunMetal Gray

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Toyota Black Metallic

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GM Light Driftwood Metallic

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GM Ultra Silver Metallic

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Testors One Shot Aztec Gold

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Tamiya Red Metallic

In addition, I did a second test using a candy red (Transparent Kandy Red Kustom Kolor) over the prism clear. Got a heavy metal flake effect, especially with the black and Gunmetal bases.

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As mentioned, all the bases were rattle can. The clear and the candy red were both shot using a Paasche Model V with the #5 tip/needle, using 12-15 psi. There was no adverse effect using this clear, or the regular Duplicolor clear, over the hobby laquers. I have not tested them with enamels yet, but I will be trying it soon.

 

 



#2 martinfan5

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:14 PM

Those are some cool results,  I kind of like it, but have no idea what to use it on

 

Edit-How much did it cost for the clear?


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#3 Longbox55

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:33 PM

The clear runs about $25 for a quart at any auto parts store, I usually get mine from Advance Auto or O'Reillys. When I picked this up, Advance was having a "buy 2 get one free" sale. This paint is prethinned, ready to spray with out of the can.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:38 PM

Pretty cool stuff. My guess is that it will bubble the enamel. That is what the regular Dupli-Color clear does anyway.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:57 PM

That's more or less what I expect as well, but figure that it can't hurt to try it out. The Paint Shop stuff doesn't seem as hot as regular Duplicolor. Just after I posted this, I shot some of the regular clear over the test spoons, didn't see any adverse reaction over the Kustom Kolor, which is a modified enamel. I plan to test over hobby enamels, and will post my results, good or bad.



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:10 PM

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This red sure would look good on a Manx Bill! B)



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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:43 PM

This product is giving the same results as an older product additive named Prizmatique.

Like a pearl additive, only much larger, you added the Prizmatique into the clear in whatever quantities or ratios desired.

 

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:50 AM

it looks cool but i dont know if i would like it on a model, the flakes may be well out of scale



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:52 AM

This came in one of their rattle can sets a few years back. I've yet to use it on a model. I'm just waiting for the right kit.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:46 AM

it looks cool but i dont know if i would like it on a model, the flakes may be well out of scale

Yeah, the flakes are a bit on the large side, especially for 1/24-1/25 scale. Might be ok on a larger scale build, though. I did pick up a can of their reguler metallic clear, which has a much smaller flake in it. I'll test it, too, and post soon.

Oh, and I have some up with a plan on the larger flake, as I do have soe 1/8  and 1/12 scale builds in the works that need a cool paint job. B)



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Posted 19 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

I don't know how old all you guys are, but there was some pretty huge flake applied to dune buggies and bass boats years ago. The flakes were WAY bigger than what you'd usually see on a custom car, and had to be shot through a special large-orifice gun. Much bigger than this.

 

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:00 PM

 "there was some pretty huge flake applied to dune buggies and bass boats years ago."

 

Yeah, I remember seeing some show cars that had flakes that were 1/2 to 3/4 inch. I don't think they could be sprayed, but sort of "blown" onto a wet substrate. This stuff would work great for that.


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 03:07 PM

This came in one of their rattle can sets a few years back. I've yet to use it on a model. I'm just waiting for the right kit.

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I used the spray can set on this one , but I had trouble with the black base coat .I ended up just use Testors flat black.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:56 PM

I used that Duolicolor spray "system" on one of my 1 16th Kenworth Aerodynes, it turned out nice but that paint is pretty expensive if I recall.

The color shifts from purple to green (I have a pic of the truck but with the flash it just looks totally green metallic).

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Lowes has some spray cans of similar stuff that is going non-stock in a lot of stores and has been reduced from somewhere around $13 a can to half price or whatever the store wants to mark them down for.

I got several cans the other day for $5 each.

They come in a gold to green shift or a purple to blue shift (I like the latter a lot, it's going on my 1 16th Daytona conversion).

I will get the name and post it and maybe even the item numbers.

Lowes is pretty funny with reduced stuff.

If you ask for a Department Manager and shoot them a price, you'll normally do just fine.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 03:46 PM

Just a quick update, I've expanded the test to include the Metallic Clear from the Paint Shop line, as well as testing the Paint Shop clears over hobby enamels and acrylics. No pix at this time, I'm letting the paint dry first, but so far there's no adverse reaction to using it over any of the hobby enamels or acrylics I've tried it on.



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Posted 22 December 2012 - 05:10 AM

As an aside, the Lowes stuff is Galaxy Blue Colorshift item #12742.

Looking forward to your next pics Longbob, cool thread!

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 04:55 PM

Alright, the clear has dried, so now for the 2nd test pix! B)

First, I'll start with the Metallic Clear over Duplicolor and hobby laquers.

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Here's the Metallic clear in the can. Almost looks more like a pearl silvery-white once it's mixed up.

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Over GM Metallic Black.

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Testors Laquer System Gloss Black

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Tamiya TS11 Maroon

I'm pleased with how it looks on these colors, especially over black. This clear seems to have a bluish tint to the metallic in it, which tends to make it not work well with certain colors. As before, no problems using it over hobby laquers.

Now for the next test. For this part, I used hobby enamels (Testors), 1 spray can and the other airbrushed, airbrushed Auto Air Creatix, airbrushed Tamiya acrylic, Kustom Kolor spray can enamel, and just for giggles (and because it was handy) Valspar John Deere Green tractor paint.

One difference I did this time was to split each spoon into 3 sections. The top has the Metallic clear, the bottom is the Prism clear, the middle was left alone for a test of just the regular clear on its own.

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Model Master Magnese Brown spay can.

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Testors Boyd Grape Pearl. I was very impressed with how this one looks. This one was also my first attempt at using Donn Yosts method of using cheap laquer thinner for enamels. I have to say, it works!

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Auto Air black.

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Tamiya X-13 Metallic Blue. Again, first time spraying Tamiya acrylic. I had a bad experience spraying water base paints in the past, so was reluctant to try it. After this test, I will be using more of the Tamiya acrylics for spraying in the future.

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Valspar JD Green.

I saw no lifting or wrinkling, so I would feel safe using the Duplicolor Clears over hobby enamels and acrylics. As with the earlier test, all the airbrushed paints were shot with my trusty Paashe Model V dual action.

One more note I'd like to add, the Prism and Metallic clears are intended as a mid coat, and should be cleared over. While they do have a decent shine to them, they do have a slight texture that needs to buried in regular clear.

I will no one more test, shooting a Kandy over the Metallic clear to what effect is makes. Then It'll be on to an actual Guinea Pig, namely the Dirty Donny Chevy van.