W-Machine Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The announcement of its impending release has got me stoked! (I don't call myself "W-Machine" for nothing!) I'm gonna buy at least 4 of them. I was wondering if anyone has seen a test shot or has any more information about this kit. Revell's web site doesn't have a lot of info, but I'm sure that someone here must know something. Please post if you do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Revell has been showing built up test shots at several shows this summer, and obviously they'll be well represented at the upcoming hobby show later this month. So the kit is out there and probably close to production, perhaps by the end of the year it will be on the shelf. It looked pretty good in the few small photos I saw, my only concerns were the apparent lack of an uptop, and wheels/tires that looked like they were too far inboard (narrow track?). Revell's website is rather disappointing if you want any real information on any model, whether current or upcoming. Revell AG is so much better in this respect, they have many photos of test shots and built examples of their new kits, even PDF files of the instruction sheets. The Revell US website is not very helpful at all for giving much of any information about their products. Revell AG's website allows a bit of "buzz" on their new kits, Revell USA's website is the antithesis of "buzzworthy". Lots of people are linking the Revell AG site to forums "hey, look...Revell has photos of their new Ferrari California...", whereas Revell USA has such a lame website nobody bothers except to order replacement parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I just read about that one a few days back, and I must admit I'm pretty jazzed too. My oldest brother has a '70 4-4-2 ragtop that he's owned since 1981, and that sure is one handsome Fisher body for sure.....I've always wanted a styrene kit of a '70-72 Olds vert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The announcement of its impending release has got me stoked! (I don't call myself "W-Machine" for nothing!) I'm gonna buy at least 4 of them. I was wondering if anyone has seen a test shot or has any more information about this kit. Revell's web site doesn't have a lot of info, but I'm sure that someone here must know something. Please post if you do! Here are shots I took at the GTR-NNL in early August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Those test shots looks great. it would be a HUGE disapointment if the kit did'nt have an uptop. hopefully Revell just did'nt have one on the buildups when they displayed them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 The announcement of its impending release has got me stoked! (I don't call myself "W-Machine" for nothing!) I'm gonna buy at least 4 of them. I was wondering if anyone has seen a test shot or has any more information about this kit. Revell's web site doesn't have a lot of info, but I'm sure that someone here must know something. Please post if you do! I was stoked to see the 'impending release' of the '87 Cutlass kit, too, so I'm not going to get too excited until I see the '72 physically on the shelves. I Revell does, in fact, release the '72, I can guarantee you I'll be buying at least a couple of 'em. One thing the world needs is more late '60's to early '70's Cutlasses in scale styrene! I'm hoping the actual kit includes an up-top. Or, better still, they pop a hardtop variant later... THAT would get me stoked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Gerry Thanks so much for posting these photo's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Why couldn't they have tooled up the body as a coupe, molded a thin groove on the inside as a guide to where you would cut to remove the top if you wanted to build a convertible instead, and includeed 2 rear seats (one for the coupe, one with convertible-style interior side panels molded to the seat), a convertible top boot and 2 sunvisors for the convertible version. Very simple, almost no added cost, and you'd have the option of building the model either as a coupe or a convertible. Or am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 I think the most likely reason is that there are differences between the coupe and convertible bodies that go beyond the convertible simply not having a top. Just from a cursory glance, it looks to me as though the trunk/tulip panel area of the convertible is quite different than that of the coupe. And, it's also worth noting that convertibles have chassis "X" members for structural integrity that aren't present on non-droptops. Besides, if they done it the way you suggest, Harry, they wouldn't have been able to release separate hardtop kit later! There you go, that's the real reason. The boot would have covered any difference in the tulip panel, if any (I doubt GM would have tooled up different body panels if they didn't really have to) and the X-brace is another no-brainer to include. As you say, the real reason is that they figure they can make us buy 2 kits instead of 1. I wonder though, how many true 2-in-1 kits (hard top, convertible) would sell vs. the convertible only plus a theoretical hard top later? I guess we'll never know! It would be interesting to compare the cost of tooling just 1 kit and letting the builder decide whether or not to build it as a convertible vs. tooling 2 separate kits (convertible body, hard top body) and weigh the tooling costs of each against sales of one single 2'n'1 kit vs. 2 separate kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gramps-xrds Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That's all we need is another olds 442. There's already been 6 of them popped out so far. There's a 66 w-30, a 66 w-30 vert, a 67 w-30, a69 hurst, a 69 w-30 and a 70 AMT cutlass that had the funny car optional build. If their going to make another olds why not make one that doesn't look like all the rest, like a 64 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshaver Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Ah yes , it was an attractive car , no doubt ! I had a Delta 88 Convertable myself . I really shoud have done a full restoration on it but there was a serious lack and still are no avalibile replacement parts for these cars . Cutlass parts on the other hand are readily avalible . I think both cars were well built and given the chance , I'd buy either one today . Ed Shaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Zimmerman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Actually,there ere quite a few differances that the boot would NOT cover. I don't have pics of the olds,but have compared the differances on 1/1 69/72 Chevelles,and you might be surprised......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Zimmerman Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Actually,we've had a 64.....How about a '65 or a V I S T A C R U I S E R................(my grail) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Actually,there ere quite a few differances that the boot would NOT cover. I don't have pics of the olds,but have compared the differances on 1/1 69/72 Chevelles,and you might be surprised......... Yeah, you're right. Oh well... never mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Three words ... Google Image Search! That's exactly how I found out I was wrong! I guess two separate kits it is, then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-Machine Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 Exotics Builder, I can't thank you enough for posting those photos! Now that I have some idea of what to expect when this beauty hits the shelves, I'm already gathering stuff for the multitude of projects I'm planning for it. All I need is a photo of the box art, so that family members will know EXACTLY what I want for Christmas. Cutlass & 442 fans are gonna love this one, and if chassis detail is consistent with what we've seen from Revell's new releases, it will be the answer to my prayers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 (edited) From the photos, it looks to me like the convertible and the formal roof coupe do share the same basic sheet metal, so maybe Revell could have done that one as as 2-in-1 convertible-hardtop kit like what Harry described? Then again, I'm not aware of the formal roof coupe ever being offered in a 4-4-2 variant, so maybe the rest of the kit would not have been accurate for one of those cars. As far as I remember, the coupe and convertible used the same trunk lid and rear quarters; the hardtop('fastback') was a different animal. The '70-72 4-4-2 was only offered in the hardtop and convertible, never the coupe. Edited October 10, 2009 by VW Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 As far as I remember, the coupe and convertible used the same trunk lid and rear quarters; the hardtop('fastback') was a different animal. The '70-72 4-4-2 was only offered in the hardtop and convertible, never the coupe. The formal roof coupe was offered as a Hurst/Olds, though. The '72 H/O coupe would be a nice followup kit, that body was also used for the Cutlass Supreme. One thing I realized is this is the first full detail '68-72 GM A-body Revell has done in 1:25th (their other A-bodies are Monogram 1:24th tooling). I'd love to see them follow this up w/ a '71/72 Buick GS (or derive one from their 1:24th '70 GSX)....they were beautiful cars that have never been kitted. Just saw a sharp gray GS on the block at Barrett-Jackson on TV, made me think of this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooltoys1 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 You can bet one of our Resin Friends will pop out a hardtop variant for all to enjoy. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 Where is the wing? The Hurst/Olds had a wing on the deck lid and it was an option for the W-30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVZ2881 Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 that looks awesome!!! I'm in for a couple when they hit the shelves.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted October 11, 2009 Share Posted October 11, 2009 I wonder if the kit will include Indy Pace Car decals. Speaking of a real wing, none of the pics I've seen recently of the '72 H/Os seem to show one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Revell will have a plethora of variation options when the kit is finally released. While the old JoHan '70 Olds 442 body is decent, the shallow interior and one-piece chassis leave a lot to be desired, even when the MPC '69 Olds 442 chassis is used under the JoHan body...and you still have no W-30 hood (though AAR's hood was excellent) nor rear spoiler. I'm not a fan of 'verts or any years other than the '70 models, so I'll patiently wait for the '70 442 hardtop in a few years. And Revell, pretty please, could you release a Rallye 350 kit, too? One of my all-time favorite cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 A Monte Carlo roof is pretty close and you could graft one of those onto the body for a Supreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 WOW Casey! havent seen you in a really long time i'd really like to see a Rallye 350 version too! i wonder if it would be possible to include this as an option in a 442 Hardtop kit? i'll be honest in that i really have no idea what differences there may be between a Rallye 350 and a 442, but it seems possible. it could be a 2-n-1 or even 3-n-1 deal if Revell were to include parts and decals for both and offer some drag option parts and decals too like they did with the '69 Nova kit. I think Revell might be better off releasing a 2-n-1 Rallye 350/Cutlass S kit which would only have the Olds 350 engine, instead of both the 350 amd 455. From what I remember, the Rallye 350 had much of the same stuff as a dressed up 442 (steering wheel, wheels, rear spolier, W-30 hood, bucket seats, etc.) so I don't think there'd be a huge parts difference between the two, with the engine parts and the wild stripes being the main changes. They could even save money by not having to vacuum plate the bumpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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