rel14 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) SO, have ya seen Pics of it,? what do ya think,? What about a indepnedent rear suspension? SO they say it will handle like its on rails? Something the road racers have been want for years,? Edited March 6, 2013 by rel14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Gotta pic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timc Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Why change what ain't broke? I had a '76 280Z with independant rear.That thing would not launch in a straight line to save it's own butt.You never knew which way it was gonna go when you dumped the clutch. At least with the way the Mustangs are now you know they are gonna go straight unless the road is wet.The '84 GT that I had would swap ends in a heartbeat if you pulled out to hard in first gear on a wet road. Just my opinions and experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I have not seen any good pictures of the 2015 yet either. IRS is an answer to all the car tester rags that pick on the Mustang for using archaic technology in the for of a live axle. Persoanlly I am not a fan of IRS as My 03 Cobra, GTO's, 5th Gen Camamro's are overly suseptible to violent wheel hop which gets worse as the power goes up. If the NVH guys would put in harder durometer bushings to quell the hop and the eventual breakage it might be worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I've never had a problem w/ the cars I've had w/ IRS ('96 BMW M3, Cadillac STS, a couple older Mercedes) but I'm not a drag racer, more into good handling. So this should be a big improvement. As good as the '12-13 Boss 302 was at handling, I would expect the new car w/ IRS to be even better...it's still over a year away until launch, so more information should be coming late in the year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's about time they dropped the horse and buggy "technology" and brought the Mustang into the 21st century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's about time they dropped the horse and buggy "technology" and brought the Mustang into the 21st century! Yeah, they've gone about as far as they can with the solid rear axle...I still like the '05-14 car quite a bit, wouldn't mind having one when I have more garage space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I still don't see what's so big about having the inferior rear suspension over some variation of solid axle.......outside of looking more high tech. If you looks at External Explosion's XJ-R GRM 2012 Jeep Cherokee or Petty Cash Racing's #430 Jeep Cherokee 24 Hours of Lemons and Chump Car racer. They've both been top finishers and while 2wd, they have 2 solid axles regularly out perform what should have been faster cars with those trucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 What have they done to the Mustang!That looks like something made by an electric car designer. He must have said "Lets get a car with a legendary reputation as a nice looking car and smear that on the ground.We can make it look like it's turning into a hatchback, put HUGE flares on the wheelwells, and make the front end look like the new ford hybrids!" I really like the look of the 08-13 Mustangs, you could see where the roots of it's design came from, now they have just killed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan White Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It's about time they dropped the horse and buggy "technology" and brought the Mustang into the 21st century! And yet the Corvette still uses a "leaf spring" at the rear end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 That's not a pic of the real car, just something from someone's imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) And yet the Corvette still uses a "leaf spring" at the rear end. It has an IRS w/ a transverse spring. The Mustang is the only RWD car left on the US market (or in the world, probably) w/ a solid rear axle. Every other performance or sports car uses an IRS. Edited March 6, 2013 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker388 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) What have they done to the Mustang!That looks like something made by an electric car designer. He must have said "Lets get a car with a legendary reputation as a nice looking car and smear that on the ground.We can make it look like it's turning into a hatchback, put HUGE flares on the wheelwells, and make the front end look like the new ford hybrids!" I really like the look of the 08-13 Mustangs, you could see where the roots of it's design came from, now they have just killed it. Exactly, you would have thought that they would have learned not to change the Mustangs after the Mustang 2. I personally think it looks like a mix of Aston Martin and Bugatti. Edited March 6, 2013 by wrecker388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 It has an IRS w/ a transverse spring. The Mustang is the only RWD car left on the US market (or in the world, probably) w/ a solid rear axle. Every other performance or sports car uses an IRS. Right! And the reason they still use a solid axle has nothing to do with the "benefits" of one. It's all about keeping the Mustang's price down. That is the bottom line as to why they've held onto that ancient technology for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa3de8 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Don't like it. Taking that Mustang look away again. The independant rear sounds nice but the car itself looks ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Don't like it. Taking that Mustang look away again. The independant rear sounds nice but the car itself looks ugly. You can't take any of the pictures on the internet currently seriously....those are just someone's thought about what it could look like, nothing official has been shown...it probably won't be shown for real until at least the LA auto show this winter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The guys that raced the Cobras from 1999 and 2002 removed the IRS . One of the first things they did. They just do not take high amounts of horse power and launching down the track. Just what Harry said, the GT 's had solid axle because of the price. My 2002 handles fine with this old set up. The more the bells and whistles the more to go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan White Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 It has an IRS w/ a transverse spring. The Mustang is the only RWD car left on the US market (or in the world, probably) w/ a solid rear axle. Every other performance or sports car uses an IRS. Yeah I know that, Harry was just saying how finally the Mustang is getting rid of the "ancient" solid axle, yet the Corvette still uses an "ancient" leaf spring (albeit it being transverse rather than longitudinal) while still being able to handle just as well as cars costing twice as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Exactly, you would have thought that they would have learned not to change the Mustangs after the Mustang 2. I personally think it looks like a mix of Aston Martin and Bugatti.Aston Martin, sure, all Fords new desgins are looking like Aston Martin, makes sense to share desgins , saves money, but as for the Bugatti, not seeing anything close that makes think that Edited March 6, 2013 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The talk of the transverse rather than longitudinal spring in the Vette . Model T's had them a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 The talk of the transverse rather than longitudinal spring in the Vette . Model T's had them a long time ago. But they weren't fiberglass or carbon fiber or whatever it is they're made of on the Corvette... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) I know I could look it up myself, but who's head of Ford styling now? The guy running the show when they did the last Ford GT and the Ford 49 showcar had talent. Did they fire him, or did he have a stroke, or what? Edited March 6, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker388 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Aston Martin, sure, all Fords new desgins are looking like Aston Martin, makes sense to share desgins , saves money, but as for the Bugatti, not seeing anything close that makes think that The rear clip kinda has that shape. Actually, looking at the concept again it seems to share many body similarities to a Veyron Edited March 6, 2013 by wrecker388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) No one seems to comprehend that the images in first post are not official Ford images..they are just someone's renditions of what it might look like...and the black car in the 3 pics is just an engineering mule using a modified current body.. Edited March 6, 2013 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Mules?......I thought we were talking about Mustangs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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