Michael in Illinois Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Looking to build the 67 Sox & martin GTX. Need a dana rear for the kit, is there a kit that has that? Any other tips for that build would be appreciated. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffs396 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 The most accurate Dana 60 axles came in the Revell 68-69 Chargers, HEMI Dart, and the new HEMI 'Cuda. Johan had them in some kits, and maybe other kit manufacturers as well, but I've yet to see any as good as the recent Revell part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Sox and martin kit from Johan is a nice one to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Basher Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The one from the AMT '53 Ford Flipnose looks like a Dana 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Dana in the '68 Hemi Dart kit is a standard-width B-Body rear , both in "1:1" and in the kit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Competition Resins also has a Dana rear end available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 The most accurate Dana 60 axles came in the Revell 68-69 Chargers, HEMI Dart, and the new HEMI 'Cuda. I will second Jeff's suggestion after comparing the first two above. The two housings are very similar, but not quite exactly the same. The '68 Hemi Dart's rear cover is slightly wider or elongated (side-to-side, when in the installed position) and just slightly larger all around the perimeter than the '68/9 Charger R/T's. The Hemi Dart's housing appear (to me) to be closer to 1/24.5 scale, if we assume the Charger's is a correct 1/25 in all dimensions. Looking at it another way, the Charger's rear could pass as a Dana 60 and the Hemi Dart's as a Dana 70 IMHO, and the Dart's rear would look right at home in either a 1/25 or 1/24 scale model. The Dana 44 front axle from the just issued Ford Bronco has a nice cover, but the housing itself is too generic and the ribbing looks to squared off to me, so I only include the cover in my comparison photos. The Bronco's cover looks just fine on the Charger's housing but appears a but undersized on the Dart's, so I think the Bronco cover used with the Charger housing produces the best option for a Dana 44 (for most applications, but not all) setup. The best thing about the Bronco's cover in my opinion is it's scale thickness, which has less "bulge" where the cover expands over the ring gear inside. This "bulge" isn't horrible on either the Charger nor Dart's covers (and not nearly as bad as seen on the JO-HAN cover), but the lip of the Bronco's cover is also much more in scale than the others, too. The thick, over-sized lip on the JO-HAN Dana differential cover can be thinned down in ll fairness, but it still comes in a distant fourth place not worth using at all in my opinion, since there are better, more accurate options available. A word about the comparison pics I added below. From top to bottom the rear ends are: 1/25 Revell Dodge Ram VTS Chrysler 9.25" 1/25 Revell '68 Hemi Dart 1/25 Revell '68 Dodge Charger R/T Unknown black rear, which I *think* is from the 1/25 Revell Chevy '73-'86 Stepside kit(s) I included the Ram VTS and unknown black rear for visual comparison, and because the black rear was the closest rear I could find which I thought would pass for a Dana 44 rear. Its shape is a bit generic, and again, in my opinion, I would use the Charger's rear and Bronco's cover to come close to a Dana 44, but considering the size of the housing alone, the black rear appears closer to a Dana 44 IMHO. That said, please have a look at the pics and judge what you think looks better, more accurate, etc. It's always good to have options. The bottom axle in the below image has the Bronco's Dana 44 cover in place: Below, clockwise from top left: Ram VTS, '68 Hemi Dart, '68 Charger, Bronco: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Is the rear end in the Jo-Han SC/Rambler a Dana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I will second Jeff's suggestion after comparing the first two above. The two housings are very similar, but not quite exactly the same. The '68 Hemi Dart's rear cover is slightly wider or elongated (side-to-side, when in the installed position) and just slightly larger all around the perimeter than the '68/9 Charger R/T's. The Hemi Dart's housing appear (to me) to be closer to 1/24.5 scale, if we assume the Charger's is a correct 1/25 in all dimensions. Looking at it another way, the Charger's rear could pass as a Dana 60 and the Hemi Dart's as a Dana 70 IMHO, and the Dart's rear would look right at home in either a 1/25 or 1/24 scale model. The Dana 44 front axle from the just issued Ford Bronco has a nice cover, but the housing itself is too generic and the ribbing looks to squared off to me, so I only include the cover in my comparison photos. The Bronco's cover looks just fine on the Charger's housing but appears a but undersized on the Dart's, so I think the Bronco cover used with the Charger housing produces the best option for a Dana 44 (for most applications, but not all) setup. The best thing about the Bronco's cover in my opinion is it's scale thickness, which has less "bulge" where the cover expands over the ring gear inside. This "bulge" isn't horrible on either the Charger nor Dart's covers (and not nearly as bad as seen on the JO-HAN cover), but the lip of the Bronco's cover is also much more in scale than the others, too. The thick, over-sized lip on the JO-HAN Dana differential cover can be thinned down in ll fairness, but it still comes in a distant fourth place not worth using at all in my opinion, since there are better, more accurate options available. A word about the comparison pics I added below. From top to bottom the rear ends are: 1/25 Revell Dodge Ram VTS Chrysler 9.25" 1/25 Revell '68 Hemi Dart 1/25 Revell '68 Dodge Charger R/T Unknown black rear, which I *think* is from the 1/25 Revell Chevy '73-'86 Stepside kit(s) I included the Ram VTS and unknown black rear for visual comparison, and because the black rear was the closest rear I could find which I thought would pass for a Dana 44 rear. Its shape is a bit generic, and again, in my opinion, I would use the Charger's rear and Bronco's cover to come close to a Dana 44, but considering the size of the housing alone, the black rear appears closer to a Dana 44 IMHO. That said, please have a look at the pics and judge what you think looks better, more accurate, etc. It's always good to have options. The bottom axle in the below image has the Bronco's Dana 44 cover in place: Below, clockwise from top left: Ram VTS, '68 Hemi Dart, '68 Charger, Bronco: the only one of those that resembles a dana 60 cover is the top right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Is the rear end in the Jo-Han SC/Rambler a Dana? I believe it is supposed to be a Dana 60, and IIRC the same rear is found in the Sox & Martin '7 Cuda kit, too. Here are the rearend halves from the SC/Rambler, the cover, and a chrome plated cover from another, unknown JO-HAN kit: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Driver Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) The AMT 69 GTX and the 70 Super Bee have respectable Dana 60 axles as well. I don't have a 68 Road Runner for reference, but I assume it does as well. Axle cover link http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/attachments/f8/1353617d1400580627t-identify-axles-transmission-axlechart.jpg Edited November 27, 2016 by Dodge Driver Add info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) The AMT 69 GTX and the 70 Super Bee have respectable Dana 60 axles as well. I don't have a 68 Road Runner for reference, but I assume it does as well. Here's a pic of the '69 GTX's rear cover from an eBay listing, but I don't think it's as nice nor as accurate as the two Revell-sourced options above: Edited November 27, 2016 by Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Driver Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Here's a pic of the '69 GTX's rear cover from an eBay listing, but I don't think it's as nice nor as accurate as the two Revell-sourced options above: I agree, Casey. And the cover has eleven bolts although Dana covers have ten. Still, it was a jewel back in the day when all I had seen was those awful Monogram Mopar axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 I agree, Casey. And the cover has eleven bolts although Dana covers have ten. Still, it was a jewel back in the day when all I had seen was those awful Monogram Mopar axles. I don't doubt it at all, and I think the AMT/Ertl '68-9 Mopar B-bodies were a huge upgrade over what was available then. I'm just hoping everyone who has access to Dana rear parts can share so we can all see what's available, and then decide what works best for each of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) The lindberg 64 Dodge and Plynouth kits have a Dana in them as well. But imo its undersized. ..especially the axle diam Edited November 27, 2016 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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