robertburns Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Head badge from Shapeways (white detail) IMG_0257 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Floor from Shapeways (white strong and flexible) IMG_0254 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Rear wall with seats from Shapeways (White strong and flexible) IMG_0253 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Last one for a while IMG_0538 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Edited July 30, 2014 by robertburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my66s55 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Which all leads us back to the fact that 3d printing is good for proto-typing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Which all leads us back to the fact that 3d printing is good for proto-typing. Exactly. Why, has someone said it wasn't good for prototyping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) The cost of the first (master) compared to the resin , was what I was looking at. I know that the rubber does not last for long , I just do not know how many parts can be poured before it is junk. I also did not know that the warping was still a problem( I worked with SLA bottle models in 96) with the SLA printed parts. I was thinking that it would be closer to the same price for the printed part, thanks for the wake up call. So much for the parts getting cheaper the longer it is open to the public LOL . I know how all the casting works but never made more than a few parts that way at work before. The most we ever did was 20 to 25 of the same part. Edited July 30, 2014 by 1930fordpickup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 The cost of the first (master) compared to the resin , was what I was looking at. I know that the rubber does not last for long , I just do not know how many parts can be poured before it is junk. I also did not know that the warping was still a problem( I worked with SLA bottle models in 96) with the SLA printed parts. I was thinking that it would be closer to the same price for the printed part, thanks for the wake up call. So much for the parts getting cheaper the longer it is open to the public LOL . I've gotten 60 parts out of the mold. Some last longer, others get bad after 8 parts. It just depends how much work it has to do. Undercuts are harsh on a mold and kill it faster. Certain resins can expedite a molds deterioration. Changine resin to rubber might affect it's life. Actually the cost of 3D printing is super cheap today then when I first started. If I did this in 2004 I would have paid $1250! It may not look like it when I show you the numbers on this project, but it really is getting cheaper. Think what it will be in 3 years. Add to that, the resolution will get better which means less or no sanding. Also, the warping will eventually get eliminated all together. In less than 10 years, we'll be able to go to a Fed Ex Kinkos and get a kits printed out for us. This is why I encourage younger people to learn CAD skills. That is the where the money will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 As I have said before I worked with this back in 96 and the resolution is the same. The quality is better but almost 20 years it should be. I am not knocking printed parts just think it should be cheaper by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) I remember seeing seeing a complete GM progress vehicle a long time ago at a Toledo NNL.Someone had built it in 1/25 scale from wrenshape(not sure of the spelling)and was planning to make if available in resin.That was at least 10 years ago and never saw it again.Anyone know who built it of what happened to it? Concerning the of the potential kits to we car modelers maybe it would be possible to take prepaid orders in advance then produce only enough kits to fill those orders instead of producing a bunch that would then go unsold. These were awsome vehicles then and now and would make some really neat models.How about one built as a rolling hobby shop! A little research on line reveals some earlier ones built in the 1930's that were very intresting as well.I found those images on the oldmotor.com. Edited August 22, 2014 by misterNNL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I just checked again at theoldmotor.com under the heading of GM parade of progress and they have a couple of photos dated 1936 of some of the first vehicles used.Pretty neat stuff ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 I remember seeing seeing a complete GM progress vehicle a long time ago at a Toledo NNL.Someone had built it in 1/25 scale from wrenshape(not sure of the spelling)and was planning to make if available in resin.That was at least 10 years ago and never saw it again.Anyone know who built it of what happened to it? Concerning the of the potential kits to we car modelers maybe it would be possible to take prepaid orders in advance then produce only enough kits to fill those orders instead of producing a bunch that would then go unsold. These were awsome vehicles then and now and would make some really neat models.How about one built as a rolling hobby shop! A little research on line reveals some earlier ones built in the 1930's that were very intresting as well.I found those images on the oldmotor.com. That was Joel Dirnberger (SP?). More than 10 years ago. I think it was around 95 or so. As far as I know, it was never finished, but it's super close to being done. Hobby shop is a great idea! I love it. Prepaid kits is done frequently in the sci fi area. It works, but if a kit takes too long, people get angry. I don't blame them. I've seen kits take a year. 3 years. 7 years to get to the customer. Those kits are in the hundreds to $1000s. I wouldn't want to take someone's money and not deliver right away. I'll probably do a kickstarter though. That takes a credit card but doesn't charge it until it's ready to roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 While I'm waiting to save up some money for the silicone, I've been working on this Fox Thunderbird Cut out the prostock rear wheel arches and engine bay IMG_0686 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Temporarily assembled the interior and chassis for fit IMG_0685 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Hood scoop removed, hole replaced with 1987 Thunderbird hood section IMG_0691 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertburns Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Engine bay from 1987 Thunderbird added IMG_0688 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr 1987 Thunderbird is taped to body for proper wheelbase IMG_0692 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr Added sections from second 1986 Prostock kit for the smaller wheel arches IMG_0693 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr More to come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Your Futurliner project: WOW!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revstew Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thank you Karl! Hi Len. Not sure about making this a full kit yet. I'm doing a few for myself. A stock one, a fire engine, and an 8 car transporter semi truck loaded with Motorama cars. I might do a few built ups to sell to pay for the project. Not sure if a kit could work but I'm thinking about it. It's huge and would take a lot of silicone. I've had plenty of items that people said they wanted. I made it available and when it came to order, I got little response. Sci Fi guys can spend $1000 on a resin kit without a flinch. Plane and Armor models spend less but still pay quite a bit. Car guys might complain at a $30 resin kit. I can tell you with the size of this (it's like a bus) a resin kit would be in the hundreds. No offense intended (I'm a car guy first). It's just the reality of the market. Car guys don't spend as much as other genre modelers do. I would have to think carefully about a kit because it is a lot of labor, time, and monely invested on my end. I can't afford to make a bunch and sell a few. I would consider one in a smaller scale like 1/43rd. Thanks, Rob I have spent triple digits like that for a resin kit before. Good quality is not cheap and cheap quality is never good. Great looking project and build. I would like to learn a bit more on the 3D program your using from you if I can PM let me know. I recently did a custom truck frame and components in 3D and had them printed. Great build here!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 1/43 might be a good choice since that would significantly reduce the "pieces" required to do a quality kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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