Zoom Zoom Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I just love my "Ignore User" list so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete J. Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Incidentally, there is no such thing as an Mk I. Previous versons of the GT 40 are just called "GT 40"! Jairus - You are right, but when the Mark II's and successive models came about, the first car became a Mark I by default. If you refer to a GT40 people will question "which one". If you say Mark I people know exactly which one you refer to. Not exactly correct but it keeps things tidy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I realize that I may sound like I am in outer space, but I do not understand the logic of this kit. With the economy in the dumper, the cost of a 1/12 scale kit of this detail and quality will be way over $100.00. That severely limits the sales potential. There are so many great 1/24th scale kits of this car, why a big scale one, and besides, 1/12th scale kits take up so much room to display. Sure it will build up into a great looking kit, but to do it right, there will be photo etched aftermarket kits out there that will drive the cost of this kit to around $300.00 (My guess). I think, a well designed kit in 1/24th of the Ford GT40 mk 4, that is not easily available, and very desirable, would have a much wider audience and at a cost of around $50.00 to $60.00 it would be more attainable by the masses, besides, most of us who build race cars need that mk 4 to round out the collection of GT40’s. Ok, go ahead take your shots at my logic…I’m a big boy. Here's some basic math on why they probably went large scale. Keep in mind these are ballpark numbers. Lets say your average 1/24th - 1/25th scale new tool kit costs $120,000 to produce. If the wholesale cost is $12.00 each, you need sell 10,000 kits to break even. On the other hand, the production cost to make a new tool 1/12th or 1/8th scale kit is $200,000 which is only $80,000 more. Figure the wholesale cost is $40.00 each, you only need to sell 5,000 kits to break even. Now you know why so many large scale kits on currently on the market. -Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroNitro Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 http://www.elvis-is-alive.com it must be true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Barrow Posted December 12, 2008 Share Posted December 12, 2008 I was just reading an article about Shelby American's involvement with the GT 40 program, according to that article, the 289-powered cars were most often refered to simply as the "GT" and the later cars were simply "Mk. II" and "Mk. IV" But, it's not 1966 and we're not Ford race team members, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAL Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I was just reading an article about Shelby American's involvement with the GT 40 program, according to that article, the 289-powered cars were most often refered to simply as the "GT" and the later cars were simply "Mk. II" and "Mk. IV" But, it's not 1966 and we're not Ford race team members, are we? The factory build sheets just say GT40 P - 1XXX no reference to Mk.s, I am sure the Mk. thing was something unoffically carry over from Lola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Barrow Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 The factory build sheets just say GT40 P - 1XXX no reference to Mk.s, I am sure the Mk. thing was something unoffically carry over from Lola. That was kinda my point - that the people that worked on these cars didn't call 'em by the right name, so why should we worry about it? I'd rather say something wrong that people understand than be correct and have to explain myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAL Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) That was kinda my point - that the people that worked on these cars didn't call 'em by the right name, so why should we worry about it? I'd rather say something wrong that people understand than be correct and have to explain myself. If you really dig pretty deep into it all it's kind of confusing anyway. What every one knows as the LeMans winning Gulf Mk.II is in fact a Mk.I reworked to 68 specs, which is already 1 of 4 cars that were specially built for the Gulf team and are different than all the other "Mk.Is", which further lends to the idea Mk.s, a British thing not an American thing, was a superficial nomenclature invented by most likely commentators to distinguish the difference, but if you follow the Mk.s it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, particularly when you throw in the 68-69 Mk I were as the 66 winner was a Mk II. And is further complicated by the “J†car. I think the two 7.0 Mk. II warrant another Mk to themselves technically, and lets not forget the 351 cars, as well as the 4 Gulf Mk unique unto themselves. Is. Maybe it was the introduction of the Mk III, the road car that kinked it all up. In any event, there is just not a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. Edited December 13, 2008 by CAL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphoto Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) If you really dig pretty deep into it all it's kind of confusing anyway. What every one knows as the LeMans winning Gulf Mk.II is in fact a Mk.I reworked to 68 specs, which is already 1 of 4 cars that were specially built for the Gulf team and are different than all the other "Mk.Is", which further lends to the idea Mk.s, a British thing not an American thing, was a superficial nomenclature invented by most likely commentators to distinguish the difference, but if you follow the Mk.s it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, particularly when you throw in the 68-69 Mk I were as the 66 winner was a Mk II. And is further complicated by the “J†car. I think the two 7.0 Mk. II warrant another Mk to themselves technically, and lets not forget the 351 cars, as well as the 4 Gulf Mk unique unto themselves. Is. Maybe it was the introduction of the Mk III, the road car that kinked it all up. In any event, there is just not a whole lot of rhyme or reason to it. Lets really complicate things and add the 3 Mirage's to mix as well as these were the 351 powered cars. Also here is some tech info Production #s Prototypes: coupes 5 roadsters 4 MKII coupes 2 X-1 roadster 1 Production: Coupes racing 48 Coupes road 31 MKII coupes 8 MKIII: LH Drive 4 RH Drive 3 Mirage Coupes 3 Alan Mann built cars: Coupes (lightweight) 2 MKII Coupes 3 MK IV: Proto J cars 3 Proto MKIV 1 Prod. MKIV 4 Spare MK IV tubs 2 G7A Can Am cars 2 Also ther were roughly 6-12 MKIII chassis that were never completed Car Engine GT40 MKI 260/289 GT40 road car 289 GT40 MKIII 289 Mirage 351 MKII 427 J car 427 MKIV 427 Hope this helps!! Edited December 13, 2008 by bigphoto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete J. Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 (edited) Lets really complicate things and add the 3 Mirage's to mix as well as these were the 351 powered cars. Also here is some tech info Production #s Prototypes: coupes 5 roadsters 4 MKII coupes 2 X-1 roadster 1 Production: Coupes racing 48 Coupes road 31 MKII coupes 8 MKIII: LH Drive 4 RH Drive 3 Mirage Coupes 3 Alan Mann built cars: Coupes (lightweight) 2 MKII Coupes 3 MK IV: Proto J cars 3 Proto MKIV 1 Prod. MKIV 4 Spare MK IV tubs 2 G7A Can Am cars 2 Also ther were roughly 6-12 MKIII chassis that were never completed Car Engine GT40 MKI 260/289 GT40 road car 289 GT40 MKIII 289 Mirage 351 MKII 427 J car 427 MKIV 427 Hope this helps!! Lets not forget the Mark IIa's and Mark IIb's - The B's were updated A's with differant heads and differant brake ducts. Everyone thinks of the cars as either Allen Mann or Shelby cars, lets don't forget about the Holman Moody cars(3rd place car in 1966). Oh, heck, they are just a mess. Edited December 13, 2008 by Pete J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygre Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I have mine on order from Strada for $208 plus shipping. Wonderif anyone will do some aftermarket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragline Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 If it's accurate this will be landmark. I'm getting one. Strada?? i need to order one. Website? Bob F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Strada Motosports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrygre Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Wonderif anyone will do some aftermarket? From the description, it almost sounds like it already has all the aftermarket it needs - except for alternative decals, probably. In any event, this is likely to be the kit of the decade - for those that can pony up the bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Davis Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Does anyone know the Release date on this kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Strada says July but my guess is that it could be August to allow for some slippage. I guess they would have to ship it in June to make the July date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Is selling your First Born an acceptable way to get the money to buy one of these? Granted she's 32 now but she's still the first born. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphoto Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Man what a pricetag I wonder what the interest rate my LHS will gank me for financing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 hehehehehehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 If anyone is so inclined to post info on the aftermarket aspect to this kit, please email or call me first. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Gregg per your request I just e-mailed you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Rabbit Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 The decal sheet will most likely be missing the NZ fern emblem this car carried to its LeMans Victory. As soon as I figure out how to post the image, I will do so along with the location om the fender near the gas caps. Rally Rabbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Woodruff Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Why would the NZ & fern be missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally Rabbit Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 Len. I must be wrong. I remember McLaren had the Fern (a traditional NZ racing emblem) on one of the Ford GT's but I cannot find it on the 66 LM winner. My Bad Rally Rabbit] Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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