von Zipper Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Early this morning I got a text from my 'ol buddy Ron (Slantasaurus) that today is the 55th. anniversary. February 3, 1959 R.I.P Buddy Holly Richie Valens The Big Bopper Roger Peterson (pilot) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAsV5-Hv-7U This was a little before my time but the impact they made lives on. Any one here old enough to remember that day ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 That was today? Roger Peterson was the cousin of Mom's Dad and one of her Sisters is married to a man who was at that last concert. We never knew about it until the Richie Valens movie came out and Mom's oldest sister told us that. Apparently their folks felt than since Mom and her sister who married one of the concert goers were teens, it would be best if nobody in there school knew of the relation other than happening go also be "Petersons" and never even told them about his passinf. Mom's oldest sister kept an eye on the three of them while Grandma and Grandpa were at the funeral. If that movie hadn't been made, my Aunt may have taken that to her own grave 15 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High octane Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I was listening to rock 'n roll music back in the late 50's and it was GREAT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixties Sam Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 "Bad news on the doorstep - I couldn't take one more step." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I agree that Buddy Holly was a big one. But Richie Valens and the Big Bopper? Weren't they sort of "one hit wonders" that just happened to be popular at the time? I'd include Buddy Holly in with the big names in rock... not the other two, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slantasaurus Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I agree that Buddy Holly was a big one. But Richie Valens and the Big Bopper? Weren't they sort of "one hit wonders" that just happened to be popular at the time? I'd include Buddy Holly in with the big names in rock... not the other two, though. Richie Valens had more than 1 hit, Harry. As far as the Big Bobber goes, with out Chantilly Lace we may not have the Beatles. One of the things that impressed John Lennon about Paul McCartney was that he knew all the word to that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Richie Valens had more than 1 hit, Harry. As far as the Big Bobber goes, with out Chantilly Lace we may not have the Beatles. One of the things that impressed John Lennon about Paul McCartney was that he knew all the word to that song. Opinions may vary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I often wondered how much bigger Holley may have become if his life had not been cut short... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I agree that Buddy Holly was a big one. But Richie Valens and the Big Bopper? Weren't they sort of "one hit wonders" that just happened to be popular at the time? I'd include Buddy Holly in with the big names in rock... not the other two, though. I think this happened before they could do much more, although considering that BB was about to be a father, it could have made a difference there for him if he had lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Think about this... BH was what, 22 or so when he died? By that time he already had a ton of hit records. Just to name a few... Rave On Love's Made a Fool of You Not Fade Away Oh, Boy! It Doesn't Matter Anymore It's So Easy Maybe Baby Peggy Sue That'll Be the Day Just think how much more he would have done if he had gotten more time to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Here is a very early (1958) recording of the Beatles (then still calling themselves the Quarrymen) doing "That'll Be the Day" with John singing lead. At the time, George was only 14 or 15! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Just one of the many reasons I hate February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Irwin Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Richie Valens had more than 1 hit, Harry. As far as the Big Bobber goes, with out Chantilly Lace we may not have the Beatles. One of the things that impressed John Lennon about Paul McCartney was that he knew all the word to that song. Actually it was a song called "Twenty Flight Rock" by Eddie Cochran that Paul sang and played for John. (left handed on an upside down borrowed right handed guitar) BTW, Paul is such a Buddy Holly fan that he bought the publishing rights to his songs. Edited February 4, 2014 by Craig Irwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Their plane was on the way here to play across the river in Moorhead, MN. The armory was already so full, fire marshals were enforcing the capacity code. So when the word came that the musicians were never going to arrive, promoters quickly grabbed any available local talent that could step up immediately. A local 15-year old and his buddies filled the bill and the show went on under the pall of tragedy. Other music industry folks who were part of the tour had already arrived and saw the kid perform. Based on that night's gig they signed the kid a record contract and he went to record the hits... Take Good Care of My Baby Rubber Ball Night Has A Thousand Eyes Devil or Angel It was Bobby Vee. An early member of his band, making his way across northern MN from his hometown of Hibbing, MN was an unknown Bob Dylan. So the domino effect of impact on the music word transcended beyond the plane crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Zipper Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) So the domino effect of impact on the music word transcended beyond the plane crash. That's very true, If the Big Bopper had not been sick with the flu Waylon Jennings would have been on that flight instead- Waylon Jennings was a member Buddy Holly's new band after he broke away from the Crickets. Waylon went on to make some really good music. Ritchie Valens "won" a coin toss to get his seat on the airplane. As for Ritchie Valens-check out 'Fast Freight' or 'Big Baby Blues" - He could really play the guitar !!! Edited February 4, 2014 by von Zipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 That's very true, If the Big Bopper had not been sick with the flu Waylon Jennings would have been on that flight instead- Waylon Jennings was a member Buddy Holly's new band after he broke away from the Crickets. Waylon went on to make some really good music. Ritchie Valens "won" a coin toss to get his seat on the airplane. As for Ritchie Valens-check out 'Fast Freight' or 'Big Baby Blues" - He could really play the guitar !!! Didn't Waylon Jennings also have survivors guilt because he wasn't on that plane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Zipper Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 Didn't Waylon Jennings also have survivors guilt because he wasn't on that plane? I don't think it was so much survivors guilt as it was the last thing that Waylon Jennings said to Buddy Holly before the plane took off, as I've heard the story told Buddy Holly told Waylon ' I hope your 'ol bus brakes down' And Waylon replied 'Well, I hope your 'ol plane crashes' I think that's what messed with his head the most.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Other music industry folks who were part of the tour had already arrived and saw the kid perform. Based on that night's gig they signed the kid a record contract and he went to record the hits... Take Good Care of My Baby Rubber Ball Night Has A Thousand Eyes Devil or Angel It was Bobby Vee. And now Bobby has recorded what will most likely be his final album, because of the increasing effects of Alzheimer's. http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/health/242805101.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Cullinan Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Edit Edited February 4, 2014 by Greg Cullinan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalmage Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Big Bopper was a very accomplished radio DJ, and all around funny guy from what I've read about him. Had he lived, he probably would have been an actor/comedian/record producer... as he was working on a studio in his home around the time of his death. I could only image where rock music would be today had those 3 lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 I think it's very clearly on the record that Buddy Holly and the others had a strong influence on The Beatles, who changed not only music but the social landscape of the world. Ever heard the 60s mash-up of "Twist and Shout" with "La Bamba?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I think it's very clearly on the record that Buddy Holly and the others had a strong influence on The Beatles... Just one of several stories floating around out there, but I read that John Lennon came up with the name "Beatles" because of the Crickets. Get it? Crickets...beetles...both bugs. But John changed "Beetles" to "Beatles" in order to get the "beat" in there... as in music (the beat of the music). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I was young when the beatles was popular. l like oldies but not the beatles. I turn the station when they come on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Just one of several stories floating around out there, but I read that John Lennon came up with the name "Beatles" because of the Crickets. Get it? Crickets...beetles...both bugs. But John changed "Beetles" to "Beatles" in order to get the "beat" in there... as in music (the beat of the music). You're partially right, but I'm not sure it was Buddy Holley's Crickets that John credits. This should sum it up concisely. Edited February 6, 2014 by Harry P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You're partially right... Like I said, there are several stories floating around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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