ismaelg Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 If the sink marks were consistent, it would have made an interesting set of wheels The chrome is not very good but I usually strip it anyways. Fixable? yes. Worth spending the time and effort in fixing them? I guess not Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 are you referring to the dimples on the outer part of each spoke? man if thats so, that seems totally unacceptable. what a pain in the butt to fix not to mention have to then rechrome. when is tamiyas version coming out? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Sigh..............:roll: This is one of the things I'm going to rant about this weekend in a post to all the model companies when I get time. I really want to build this car just like the concept car as it appeared at last years NAIAS. But those wheels and particularly those terrible sink marks are a MAJOR turnoff!! Looks like if want the model I want with proper looking wheels, I'll have to break out the trusty 'ol Dynatron Putty-Cote............:x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 when is tamiyas version coming out?:roll: Hmmm......Tamiya's doing a version of this??? :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 i made that up, bill. but if they did, i would bet it wouldnt have these problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick E Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I bought two of these Camaro kits, built one straight out of the box (and didn't bother to correct the wheels, as I felt that the kit was so bad that correcting the wheels wasn't worth the effort), and the second kit is about 1/2 completed as a conversion to what I think the proposed 2009 Monte Carlo (which is roomered to share the Camaro platform) may look like. With the conversion, I scratch-built a new hood that opens at the front of the car and is glued shut, so that I don't have to look at the "lump" that AMT calls an engine (it doesn't look anything like the LS6, let alone any small block Chevy mill - it looks more like a diesel engine block!). Revell/Monogram is supposed to have a Camaro out in 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 IRevell/Monogram is supposed to have a Camaro out in 2007. Aaaaaahhh!! Okay, I may as well hold up to see what they do with theirs.............but I bet ya they'll still be using that unbearable plastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H. Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Ok, I take it back... Your wheels are worse than mine! :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Your wheels are waaaaaaaaaaaay worse than mine! I have two examples and neither have spokes anywhere near that bad. Three of the four on each tree are nearly perfect, just one of the smaller fronts has slightly larger dimples. Guess QC isn't all that great. I need to check the hood fit on my second one, the first one is perfect but I've heard that some hoods are warped. I'd be PO'ed too if those were my wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 After seeing Ismael post those pics I had to pull mine out too. I have 2 "pretty nice" wheels 1 good wheel and one dimpled wheel. Now I'll have to check the hood fitment. Ismael, yea, your wheels are horrible. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Revell/Monogram is supposed to have a Camaro out in 2007. That's true, but the info I have on it is that it is a curbside like the C6 convertible. Saying that, it would likely not have the wheel issues on the AMT Camaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Looking at the wheels in my kit.......I'd have to say that they are not far off from Izzy's. I have two that are so-so, and the other two that would definitely need some putty work. At least if R/M gets the body and the wheels right, I can kitbash the rest.........:wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 At least if R/M gets the body and the wheels right, I can kitbash the rest.........:wink: I'm leaning the same way, Bill and waiting for the RM kit and kitbash the two along with the Z06 block and heads. RIght now, I'm far enough behind on building that the Camaro is not high on my list. On the deck right now are: 1) Tamiya 360 Modena with Lion Roar/AcuStion PE sets. This one will be done as a mild tuner 2) Revell 56 DelRay as a street machine with the SMB Chevy with Model Car Garage PE and R&MofM Turbohydro 3) Fujimi Mini Cooper S (LHD) with custom wheels and some added tuner body cladding. 4) Fujimi EM Ferrari 246 Dino GTS (the original issue) along with S27 Photoetch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Kern Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I just checked the ones in my kit, and the marks are barely noticeable, but they are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairus Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 So fill them dimples! Heck, did anybody promise you a rose garden? Even during the "Golden Era" of modeling, there were sink marks, and ejection pin marks.... That is what seperates the talent from the poser. Quit complaining and get something painted fer'heavens sake!* *The above was said with the greatest love and respect for you guys and your building talents! :-) J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismaelg Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 So fill them dimples! Heck, did anybody promise you a rose garden? Even during the "Golden Era" of modeling, there were sink marks, and ejection pin marks.... That is what seperates the talent from the poser. Quit complaining and get something painted fer'heavens sake!* *The above was said with the greatest love and respect for you guys and your building talents! :-) J I totally agree. I guess my point is that the subject is not that important (at least to me) to justify all the extra work. Having this been a grail of sorts, I'd be busy fixing it :wink: Now, where's that Revell chopper bike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darin Bastedo Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I bought two and the sink marks are barely noticible in mine. but they are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulcolt Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 HERE,HERE!!!! Glad someone said it Jairus! Are we model BUILDERS or model ASSEMBLERS? LOL (donning my firesuit,lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H. Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 Yeah, Jairus, you're right about that! Most of us can get past the shortcomings of this kit. Its just sad to see a great kit with lousy QC. If a beginner builds this kit, they'd probably be dissappointed at the final outcome. So many sink marks, so little time! My hood fitment is good, but the hood is bad... the underhood detail comes thru the top and creates waves on the surface. I guess a lot of filling and sanding would smooth it out, I'm just not going to go that far. This is intended to be a one week wonder build for me (well, maybe 2 weeks :? ) and right now I just want to get 'er done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc @ MPC Motorsports Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 So fill them dimples! Heck, did anybody promise you a rose garden? Even during the "Golden Era" of modeling, there were sink marks, and ejection pin marks.... That is what seperates the talent from the poser. Quit complaining and get something painted fer'heavens sake!* *The above was said with the greatest love and respect for you guys and your building talents! :-) J Thanks for your comment Jairus. Since all I build are vintage kits or reissues from the so called "Golden Era" of modeling, I'm used to fixing all the little idiosyncracies. I wouldn't know what to do with a Tamiya kit :!: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 yeah thanks. i guess we should just all take what we are given, the hell with accuracy or even quality control. just shut up and build. right. thats really gonna improve things and *really* gonna get new people involved in the hobby...when ###### is ###### right out of the box. im sorry, i dont agree. when i buy a new product i expect it to be at least semi worthy. now if this were a reissue from long ago things like this would be excusable but i see no excuse for this business right here, just lazy quality control. i would rather spend my time modifying something for a reason than to make up for cheapness and/or laziness on the part of the manufacturer. but like they say, screw me once, shame on you; screw me twice, shame on me. and imo AMT is on about its 20th screw job this year. but it does provide some comic relief. you might want to move this to the rant dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 I see both arguments here and I can honestly say no one is wrong. The fact that this is an all new tool should mean top quality and few, if any blemishes. This being a kit that was brought to market quickly probably means that items were overlooked to avoid delays and to get it into our hands. I am not happy about the sinkmarks in my two kits any more than the others here but what can I do? Call up AMT or log onto their website? That is a start but doesn't mean that the problem is solved. I think I read that AMT/RC2 has sold out the first run production of this kit and undoubtedly will produce more. Will they fix these before the next run? Maybe/Maybe not. It will most likely depend on how much it will cost and how long it will take. I do know that if we as a group decide to boycott AMT/RC2, we will only hurt ourselves as they will have less revenue in which to invest in new subjects and revise existing molds. Sorry to rant, but in the grand scheme of things, I will try to fix my kits problems and worry about bigger things in my life. I enjoy the challenge these present and the escape from reality of work and family life. Happy New Year! Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 Interesting..until I compared the kit wheels with pics of the real thing, I thought they were made that way...I'll have to fill 'em, since I was going to strip them and paint them aluminum anyway (the show car's wheels weren't chromed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Kren Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Man have to check mine out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Slammer Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 So fill them dimples! Heck, did anybody promise you a rose garden? Even during the "Golden Era" of modeling, there were sink marks, and ejection pin marks.... That is what seperates the talent from the poser. Quit complaining and get something painted fer'heavens sake!* *The above was said with the greatest love and respect for you guys and your building talents! :-) J 100% with you on this. . . I'll just add this. . . " Who said it would be easy? " :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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