GoatGuy Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I don't know if anyone has already posted this topic, but I thought it would be helpful. Please post the info you have gained on what NOT to do with paints, adhesives, decals, etc. that will let everyone know the long term effects of incompatible substances. I'm sure someone has painted, glued or decaled something that looked great, but down the road something went awry. I assume we all know not to apply lacquer over enamel due to the different drying times, but I shouldn't assume things, right ? Myself, I would like to know if spraying Dullcote over applied decals has a bad effect after a few months or years. Or does aluminum tubing show corrosion over time ? Please cut loose guys on anything long term negative. I look forward to seeing what you have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Basher Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I can't say for really long term, but I have a B-17 that I painted with enamel, sealed with Future, decalled, and sprayed with Dullcoat. It is completely unchanged after about four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoatGuy Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Good to know Hugh. How long did you let the enamel dry before applying Future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 DO NOT spray Testors clear enamel over BMF!! It will yellow quickly and be ruined! That was the worst tip I ever took from this forum! I had just began using BMF and thought it was a good idea. NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Peel and stick vinyl whitewalls is sometimes discussed on this forum as a cheap and attractive way to beautify tires. My experience is after a couple years they react with the tire vinyl and get ripply, wavy and need to be removed. If I remember later, I'll try to post some photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Basher Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Good to know Hugh. How long did you let the enamel dry before applying Future? I don't remember. Considering how fast I work, probably at least a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Peel and stick vinyl whitewalls is sometimes discussed on this forum as a cheap and attractive way to beautify tires. My experience is after a couple years they react with the tire vinyl and get ripply, wavy and need to be removed. If I remember later, I'll try to post some photos. I have not herd of this one mike but I have some builds 5 years old plus and the dry transfers still look fresh. there in air tight cases.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Probably everyone knows this, but don't use Humbrol Enamel Clear with light colors.... It will turn the color into yellow. This is Juha Airio's Monte Carlo that is built decades ago and it has been sitting in its box. He took it out for a local model car show last year. I liked the color on it and I asked that what is it... Well it is regular silver paint, but Humbrol clear turned it into this during the decades. It's a super nice build, picture don't definitely do it a justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoatGuy Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 Thanks Niko. Good info. Carl I wonder if vinyl whitewalls are different from dry transfer whitewalls. I don't know myself. I have used Shabo lettering on slicks on a couple of drag kits and had no problems. They have been on the tires for years. I always thought Shabo letters were a type of pigment on wax paper. That was my guess anyway. I never researched them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Peel and stick vinyl whitewalls is sometimes discussed on this forum as a cheap and attractive way to beautify tires. My experience is after a couple years they react with the tire vinyl and get ripply, wavy and need to be removed. If I remember later, I'll try to post some photos. It only took half a year to get photos of what I tried to describe above, but this is what I've found happens in the long term to vinyl stick on white walls. There seems to be a reaction to the vinyl tires. They started turning to bacon just two or three years later. They'd have fallen off completely if they weren't pinched between the wheel and tire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpier Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 were the tires cleaned with alcohol (or anything else) prior? looks like the adhesive gave up the bond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtienutz Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 When selecting a brand of clear to use keep this in mind, if it's yellow in the bottle what color will it be on your model? Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunajammer Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 were the tires cleaned with alcohol (or anything else) prior? looks like the adhesive gave up the bond. Well that's a consideration. I'm sure I didn't. This was built before the internet when I was less informed. When I pulled this out to photograph, I was surprised that there was no adhesive at all, not even gummy, like it was never there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maindrian Pace Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Probably everyone knows this, but don't use Humbrol Enamel Clear with light colors.... It will turn the color into yellow. This is Juha Airio's Monte Carlo that is built decades ago and it has been sitting in its box. He took it out for a local model car show last year. I liked the color on it and I asked that what is it... Well it is regular silver paint, but Humbrol clear turned it into this during the decades. It's a super nice build, picture don't definitely do it a justice. That's kind of a happy accident. Looks like it could be a factory color. -MJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 The colors on that Monte are VERY close to two factory colors that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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