southpier Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 ...... Believable engineering is probably what I obsess about the most. Research. i'm going with these ones. no matter how good a build looks, if i can't picture a driver fitting behind the steering wheel, all bets are off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas SCR Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I would have to say my push is paint, and clean windows! They have to be clean and not have a mark on them or fogged up. Then I like the little details that is on normal 1 off cars on making some thing out of nothing that the kit or aftermarket has to offer. Trying to push some thing is what I like to see on peoples models and yes some times it's been done before but some one will have a better way of doing it or making it work better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgflatliner Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 speaking of chrome... the biggest IRK i have with models has to do with how model manufacturers will attach chrome pieces to a parts tree. 99% of the time you have no choice but to cut the part off the chrome tree and it removes the chrome from that one spot, which in turn will stick out like a sore thumb if left alone. it'd be nice if they attach them to the sprue in more hidden areas. so i guess another thing i like to do with models, esecially regarding chrome, is stripping it completely and using alclad chrome - it looks more realistic (scale) than kit chrome IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalenut Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 clean clear glass , I see many awesome builds hampered with marred glass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamp Dog Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 my obsession will probably always be a perfect paint job. or at least try to obtain that perfect paint job. i agree 100%.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helix Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Research. Absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooterville75 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 For example I was judging at a show last weekend and this guy had a decent nova but didn't glue the wheels on, needless to say he didn't place. Why should that penalize a person of placing ? Every Nascar kit Ive built say right in the instructions not to glue the wheels on. They snap directly onto the axle. I dont know if street cars are like this as Ive only ever built one. If the instructions of a kit call not to glue the wheels on why should that penalize a person from placing points at a show ? (Taking notes from this thread for future contests I may enter any of my builds in). Thanks in advance for your detailed answer. Much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekay Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I guess nice paint comes first but when they stop making BMF I'll stop making models (or use the kitchen foil method). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmvw guy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Okay looking back at post 17 I was a little harsh. I thought I would get plenty of hate mail. I strive for the perfect model just like a lot of you guys but, when it comes to judging someone else's work, not for me. When anyone mentions BMF I become irritated, Having completed only one full model with BMF ever, thinking finally I'm happy with it, next morning, guess what? Not that good. I like to see it perfect and I only know one guy that can do that. He doesn't like to do it any more he told me, it's been six years. Now I will stand behind my comment, Isn't it suppose to be fun? Number one, have fun, and don't always expect to win the big trophy. I've seen guys walk away from a contest angry and dejected because they didn't win, that's obsessive! .........Maybe a little off the subject...........The original question: #1 thing that brings that extra something out of your model - The perfect paint job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.grumpy Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 For me it's being able to see the fine details, if there's no detail moulded underneath, inside or you can't see it, then to me, it's just a paintjob on four plastic wheels. On a different note; my least favorite is decals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 IMO the number one thing is COLOR! Does it grab you attention? (ask you local LEO about red cars) Is it different? How many red 69 Camaro's, 32 Deuce's. and Italian sports cars does the world really need? Next would be how it is finished. Is the paint smooth? To thick? Do the details show through? does the foil or detail painting look right? Do the details look realistic? And here is another for stance (Ace hit the nail on the head)... RM's newer Shelby Cobra Mustangs make me cringe because the ride height and rolling stock jack up what is essentially a great kit. Those are the things from a glance that draw someone in I think. All the photo etched doo dads in the world are not going to fix poor workmanship and details that are out of fidelity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Paint Job, Overall detailing (Includes for example Black Washing the grille, BMF, engine detail etc) and Overall parts fit. I think those are what I see as the most important things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I don't do contests, so all I have to do is please me . And I go more for the overall look. So stance is important to me to accruately replicate the 1/1 I'm trying to recreate for my shelf. I usually stay with box stock or pretty close to it. I MIGHT do ignition wiring and maybe some fuel lines but thats about the extent of my detailing list. But i'll work for hours trying to get a funnycar body to sit down over the ft tires, otherwise they just don't 'LOOK ' right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustBill Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Workmanship. I strive for this with every model. Starting with the basics moving all the way to the end with that final touch. Another thing about workmanship is I don't have to like the subject to be able to appreciate what went into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfins59 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah, for me it's a LOT of the above. Definitely research on the vehicle you're working on, to get the details right. Realistic engineering, in that it shouldn't sit ridiculously low, shouldn't be chopped so much that you couldn't see out of the windows, nor should the steering wheel touch the seat. A model should look like, if it was a 1:1 vehicle, it could actually be driven. The workmanship should be neat, and clean throughout the ENTIRE model, chassis, engine compartment, interior and exterior... that includes paint and/or foil work throughout the entire model. I also think that color choices are important, meaning that interior and engine compartment colors should compliment the exterior of the car. Think and plan it out before you just dive in. When I start a build I usually have a mental picture in my mind's eye of what I want the finished model to look like, and then I work to make that vision happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnwildpunk Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 One thing that makes a model shine for me is also when I can sand out the back of a grille. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinistMark Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Actually finishing one! Lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Just a pinch of love .....................................Oh.......and a pile of cash!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatRod Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 For me, one thing that bugs me is mold seams. They will make or break any model in my opinion. I will sit for hours cleaning every single part of mold lines, and getting every part to fit as perfectly as possible. If it's a chrome part, I'll just Alclad it when I'm finished. One thing to always remember is to give yourself room for whatever paint your using, for instance, if it's just a light coat of metalizer, that part will fit good, but if it's paint, or an Alclad finish, that part will grow with every coat, so you will need to keep that in mind, and remove more material before painting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR JAY Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Scale realism is important to me for my builds: resin ignition coils or CD modules that are closer to the size of tackle boxes in1:1 look out of place to me- no matter how well they're cast. Vent window posts that haven't been thinned to a more realistic sizealso stand out for me.Plug wires that scale out to the size of heater hoses and aftermarket fasteners that are way too big catch my eye. I would never criticize another's build for the presence of these details; I just concentrate on my builds not having them. Weall build to our strengths and tastes and should have fun while doing it and not worry about what others may think...unless you build for shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 For me it's about taking that strange image I have in my head and building it in 3D. If I look at the model sitting on my workbench and I've achieved that, I'm happy. I do try to make my builds a bit different than I've seen similar vehicles. I like to find a new idea or unusual slant on the subject. And for me, I weather everything. The degree of weathering depends on the subject and it's age. Even new cars have some dirt on the chassis and minor surface rust on bare parts. Seeing and duplicating that adds to the realism of the model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan2 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) A couple of additional thoughts based on some terrific builds I've seen on this forum... 1. Engines and chassis -- use a wide variety of subtle metal shades to differentiate metal components from each other. Here, research is your friend. 2. Many parts of a kit have 1:1 separate pieces molded together. Take a craft knife to lightly score around those separate pieces... - In the interior, score around handles and armrests, as well as deepening the seams on pleated seats - In the engine compartment, score around all the stuff that's molded on the firewall, such as hoses, electrical parts, etc., and carefully mask for painting. This visually "lifts" those parts away from the surface behind them and adds precision. There's a very good tip on this forum by Gluhead about opening up door handles, with the same idea in mind -- http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71690&page=1 Edited March 19, 2013 by sjordan2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 ... "We all build to our strengths and tastes ..." Great turn of phrase. This should be our mantra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blown03SVT Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Okay I have one other one I want to add... filling seams and removal of miold lines and ejection pin marks. Some folks do amazing paint and details work but forget these little basics. Nothing like fully wiring and plumbing the whole car and the oil pan, bellhousing and trans are still split through the middle, or a flawless paint job with mold lines across the c-pillar of the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpier Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 i always "de-chrome", but it's distracting to see a chromed assembly with mold marks. i understand the conundrum, but the camera tells all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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