Cato Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 A good way to practice is dental floss. When you get the right method, it's easy to undo and use your chosen material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lownslow Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 attempt 72 spoke cross lace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Frank, some really fine work there. Pun intended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennb Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 made these with my 32 spoke jig as outlined in my K3 build(link below) The rims and wheels are my own quicl castings..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcpesq817 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) Sorry, mis-posted. Edited January 3, 2021 by Mcpesq817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcpesq817 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 (edited) On 1/11/2013 at 4:16 PM, NormL said: I thought this would be a very nice thing to print in 3D. A helpful tool. Unfortunately, pricing is based upon the cost per cm³ and it has to be strong and functional. So it ended up being a little, OK twice as much as I thought. Basically $40 for the price they are charging for WSF. Obviously that will go down, but, today $40 ($1.50 design fee to me and so I can track if someone orders one) I went thought the exercise, so, I am leaving it up on Shapeways. http://www.shapeways.com/model/865746/wheel_tool_48_spoke.html?key=3c2a1b6b3feb4a587dfe24225486094d I sprued the inner and outer pieces together and they will have to be x-acto'ed apart. The inner and outer face have exactly the same radius as I am assuming that a tight fit will be needed, so, some sanding for an exact fit my also be needed. I have no idea what the nail diameter for the center of the inner piece needs to be as I am sure that varies with the model wheel being used, so, I left a 2mm diameter hole Has anyone used these Shapeways jigs? Just curious as I was going to start working on a few Triumph TR models, and thought this was a handier way of doing wheels than making my own jig. In particular, I was wondering how the posts handle the strain of taut wire, fishing line, etc. Thanks! Edited January 3, 2021 by Mcpesq817 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 It should work. It is not like you are pulling the day lights out of the wire, or fishing line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcpesq817 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Thanks! I think you're right that it should be fine. I take it nobody else has bought and used these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Is that jig available for sale somewhere (Shapeways?). Honestly, I don't see how a single jig can be universal. There are many different offsets and rim and hub thicknesses. Also different numbers of spokes. Seems that a different jig would have to be made for each different wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 8:33 PM, peteski said: Is that jig available for sale somewhere (Shapeways?). Honestly, I don't see how a single jig can be universal. There are many different offsets and rim and hub thicknesses. Also different numbers of spokes. Seems that a different jig would have to be made for each different wheel. Peter there are two different jigs sold on Shapeways from the same person. I think it was designed with the center loose so that you can shim up the or down the center because of the offset issue. If you get the one that has the most posts it should be better. You don't have to use all of the posts when you make the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteski Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Ok, thanks Andy. I'm not in a market for that jig right now, but I was just wondering how it would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 This post is an outstanding example of exactly what these forums do best,share knowledge and inspire us to kick it up a notch or three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcpesq817 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 On 1/5/2021 at 8:33 PM, peteski said: Is that jig available for sale somewhere (Shapeways?). Honestly, I don't see how a single jig can be universal. There are many different offsets and rim and hub thicknesses. Also different numbers of spokes. Seems that a different jig would have to be made for each different wheel. Yes, I came across it on an earlier thread on this board. There is a 48 post and a 72 post jig. My guess is that between the two, one would have a lot of wheel permutations. https://www.shapeways.com/shops/cpconsult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I would love to master this method but after turning the wire around the hub the first time I would certainly forget where to go next and on and on without the pegs being numbered so I could follow those numbers from peg to peg until the pattern was complete. Basically I would need a step by step guide from peg to peg to ever make it work(read that as idiot proof). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, misterNNL said: I would love to master this method but after turning the wire around the hub the first time I would certainly forget where to go next and on and on without the pegs being numbered so I could follow those numbers from peg to peg until the pattern was complete. Basically I would need a step by step guide from peg to peg to ever make it work(read that as idiot proof). Maybe figure out the peg you would need to use and paint them with a color code. Then with a piece of paper give yourself a step by step plan before you start. That way when you have to go help your wife you will know where you are at. I would have to do this if I attempt it. Edited January 19, 2021 by 1930fordpickup fix post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70mach1 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Google "Plasmo metal tension wheels" Very interesting method and looks quite convincing. Its a short video. Edited January 19, 2021 by 70mach1 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 16 hours ago, 1930fordpickup said: Maybe figure out the peg you would need to use and paint them with a color code. Then with a piece of paper give yourself a step by step plan before you start. That way when you have to go help your wife you will know where you are at. I would have to do this if I attempt it. You're on the right path here,but I need someone to number the pegs for me then give me the correct sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaves pah Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 8/26/2007 at 3:19 PM, Yad' said: Hello all................ Here's a post I made on another board - it was suggested that I might post it here too, so here you go.................... I built a little MG-TC some while ago now and an interest has been shown in the reproduction of the wire wheels. rather than a long and involved tutorial what I've done is to put together a more concise "Pictorial". The pic's are in a seqence and should make a readable instruction of sorts - at least it should point you in a direction at which to aim? Here you go then...................... 9 pic's.............. http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img501a.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img507.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img508.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img509.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img516.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img515.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img521a.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img518.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img526.jpg http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x248/Andismodelpages/Wheel%20lacing%20pictorial/Img1028.jpg Any questions or clarification - please sing out. I'd be happy to answer if I possibly can. all the best for now.................... Andi Hi Yad', as I am trying to start wiring my 1/24 and 1/25 models wheels, I found that, judging by your MG TC absolutely superb photos, I think it will be an absolute must but, never the less I have some questions for you: Why is that central inner part (with all these concentric circles) separated of the main gig, and what is it for? Do the concentric circles refer to specific wheels diameters? What are the wiring sequences you use in each spokes side? The rear spokes are flat (horizontal), but should they not be also “dished” as the front ones? How do you center the rear rim to the gig stretched spokes before gluing it? In photo 5, the 2 aluminum tubes (the new wheel Hubs where the outside spokes will rest) are secured on a temporary “axle” making part of the Gig, is that correct? And the gap between the main Gig and that circular inside part is “virtual”, isn’t it? Shouldn’t the outer rim (after being glued to rear spokes) be kept secure in place before threading the outer dished spokes? What is that white inner rim in photos 4, 5, 6 and 7, are they part of the kit rims, or is it a new rim made by you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitbash1 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 On 1/19/2021 at 3:10 PM, 70mach1 said: Google "Plasmo metal tension wheels" Very interesting method and looks quite convincing. Its a short video. Okay. So I googled that site and watched the video 5 or 6 times until I finally under stood how it works. Instead of using fishing line I'm going to try fine wire in the jig I'm going to build, which will be a 48 spoke wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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