Danno Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Why? AMT made a perfectly good '53 Ford F100 for years, in fact the last go-round of it was in the late 1980's. This kit, dating from 1964 could be built stock, custom or as a service truck. Nice tool, chock full of optional parts, including a complete chromed tool set (lots of those got robbed for custom car displays!) Often, this kit gets confused with the MPC (later reissued numerous times by AMT/Ertl as an AMT kit) which was the "flip-nose" version of the '53 pickup. Now if only Tom Lowe and Mke G. of Round2 could see fit to release the original AMT kit! Art Dittos!! That was a great kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Dittos!! That was a great kit! It's my favorite kit,just the door handles and wiper bug me a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Now that's what I'm talking about! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjim Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Beautiful Riv, Steve. Detail Master shows several wipers. What's the stock number of the ones you used on the Riv? Did I say beautiful build yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertw Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm with you on that Harry but I'd like to add all logos, emblems & names to be on the decal sheet or even better as p/e. Hand painting or foiling never seems to work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Ok... I can let it pass on models that were tooled up in the '60s and '70s and even the '80s and '90s... but on brand-new kits that have been tooled in the 21st century, why do they still insist on making the wipers a molded-in detail instead of making them separate pieces? Now that's what I'm talking about! Are you wanting injection molded kits to include P/E wipers or molded plastic wipers? No molded wiper is ever going to be as detailed as a P/E wiper, and the wipers on Steve's Riv are pretty much "state of the art" at this time (and they do look great). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjordan Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I just wish someone would do a tutorial about their techniques for dealing with the various PE wipers, which have no instructions. The Borrani wire wheel tutorial was wonderful, and cleared up every issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Island Modeler Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Since we're complaining about added detail parts, might I toss in emblems. These things can be a real pain to BMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I can live with molded wipers and door handles- scripts (especially very faintly-engraved ones) are what bother me. I like the idea of supplying them as photoetch pieces, or perhaps as a rub-on metal transfer, which might be a bit more user friendly compared to PE. Probably a bit more costly as well, now that I think of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Are you wanting injection molded kits to include P/E wipers or molded plastic wipers? No molded wiper is ever going to be as detailed as a P/E wiper, and the wipers on Steve's Riv are pretty much "state of the art" at this time (and they do look great). I'd settle for separately molded plastic wipers. I know that PE parts included with kits would raise prices too high for the average modeler. What I meant when I said "that's what I'm talking about" is how much better wipers could look if they weren't those molded-on blobs like most kits have. Even molded plastic wipers, if made as separate parts, would look way better than molded-in wipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielG Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 The Nova wipers and door handles don't look too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaroman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Door handles don't bother me ... easy to remove and replace. Wipers however are a pain because after they are removed then you have to scribe in the cowl vent detail in most cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philo426 Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 In my case the wipers had nothing to fold.They were just flat pieces with a separate 'bolt". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 If they'd finally release cars from the seventies and eighties, neither wipers nor door handles would be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Goschke Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I love old AMT kits. Give me four screws 'n two wire axles and I'm happy. But, yeah, the wipers are less than stellar. Solution; I make my own. Recipe: styrene rod shaft, carved ABS arm, styrene strip arm extension and blade, Testors gloss black, Alclad chrome, insert shaft in hole drilled in cowl after carefully shaving off the molded-on wiper-shaped bumps. Separate wipers included on the chrome tree would be great if they were somewhere near scale and were molded and plated with no flash, but that doesn't seem possible given the examples I've seen. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Revell... As for door handles, most of what I'm building these days are mild customs so they usually get shaved off, but I have made my own from ABS or styrene, cut them out of another kit body (ie. cut out of AMT '57 Ford then fitted to AMT '58) or robbed them out of a similar kit (Revellogram '59 Impala for AMT '60 Buick, and other '59-'60 GM cars.) Speaking of those handles from the '59 Impala, they do get plated with a little bit of flash present so they need meticulous cleanup and touch up, or stripping and replating which is a bit of a peeve, so I guess it's sort of a trade off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camaroman Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 ...or robbed them out of a similar kit ... One of the reasons I love the 66 Chevelle wagon so much... all of those door handles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I think we need a Pet Peeve section,that way the manufacturers could go to a one-stop shop and see real quick what bugs us. My PP is the holes in the hoods that are then molded over with a thin film of plastic. Honestly,I don't know of anyone,young or old who can't put a hole in a plastic body! I've tried dozens of ways to fill these score marks and no matter what filler is used,and/or primer, they seem to have an existence all their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewaskew Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'm with ya on this one Harry Its seams that todays kit's cost more so those details should not be a shortcut for the company's. Some kit's from way back have separate wipers and door handles so it looks like all of them could have added that detail and kept it going through out the years and new kit's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 My PP is the holes in the hoods that are then molded over with a thin film of plastic. Honestly,I don't know of anyone,young or old who can't put a hole in a plastic body! I've tried dozens of ways to fill these score marks and no matter what filler is used,and/or primer, they seem to have an existence all their own. I'm with you, Mike!! That REALLY peaves me off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 That REALLY peaves me off! I have a problem with people who can't spell "peeves" correctly... but that's just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I have a problem with people who can't spell "peeves" correctly... but that's just me... I can spell correctly, it's just my Arizonan-to-English translator that sometimes hangs up. That makes me look bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share Posted May 21, 2012 I can spell correctly, it's just my Arizonan-to-English translator that sometimes hangs up. That makes me look bad! Maybe you need to sign up for an ESL class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I can spell correctly, it's just my Arizonan-to-English translator that sometimes hangs up. That makes me look bad! So wat you r sawing is peple in Airzone dont know too spel ? :lol: (so what are you saying?, people in Arizona do not know how to spell?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan30 Posted May 21, 2012 Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'd settle for separately molded plastic wipers. I know that PE parts included with kits would raise prices too high for the average modeler. What I meant when I said "that's what I'm talking about" is how much better wipers could look if they weren't those molded-on blobs like most kits have. Even molded plastic wipers, if made as separate parts, would look way better than molded-in wipers. Detail master sells them for $4 plus shipping, I am sure if Revell or other manufacturer bought them in bulk they could get them for less. Of course thats if detail master is set up to do bulk orders. I'd pay the extra I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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