Ace-Garageguy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 (edited) One of the things lacking on the old AMT '32 Ford kit is the stamped 'reveal' in the side of the frame rails. It's present on the Revell kits, but it's too sharp and needs work to look right. The reveal is a signature part of the '32 design. No other year Ford frame has it, and it's there because, unlike a lot of other '30s cars, the '32 Ford doesn't use a side valence between the body and the running boards. The frame is exposed and is part of the styling, and the reveal follows the lines of the front and rear fenders which are bolted to it. It shows on a fenderless car, and is necessary to look right. It's supposed to end just forward of the firewall.... A milling cutter in the Dremel makes quick work of the roughing-in..... Chasing the shape with a flat-file gets the major irregularities out.... Finish shaping with 180 wet followed by 600 wet and this is what it should look like.... Another problem with the AMT '32s is that the frame is made narrower than would be correct in-scale, because it has to fit inside the fender / running board unit on a full-fendered build. The fender / running board unit in the AMT kits has a side valence molded in, which is not right. The Revell kit goes together like a real '32, with the rail exposed. I'm not going to bother widening the rails on this build at this point, and a good 'cheat' is to just pretend the rails have been 'pinched' or narrowed to allow for the body to be channeled. This was sometimes done in 1:1. Edited August 27, 2012 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 That's some detailed Dremel work but the result is stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2 Posted August 26, 2012 Share Posted August 26, 2012 Did you use your third hand to take those pix? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 26, 2012 Author Share Posted August 26, 2012 Did you use your third hand to take those pix? Ummm......at last the truth comes out......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Helmet Cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_m Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Will, i love how youve got the exhaust coming out of the engine side covers! very nice touch, and that quick change rear diff looks great as well. one question: where did you get the duvall windshield? i love those, they look all mean and laid back........like theyre goin fast just standing still! lemme know, thanks will! cheers bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 27, 2012 Author Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thanks Bryan. The DuVall is from the AMT '32 Phantom Vickie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie427 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Beautiful work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagedragfan Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 great work William!, keep at it buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 22, 2012 Author Share Posted September 22, 2012 First off, please pardon the fuzzy pix. Seems I'm a camera doofus today. Had to rebuild my Dremel and dropped some little parts too. Doofus all around today. Painted the engine about the right green for a 303 Olds after drilling the spark plug holes and the oil filler tube. .....Started making up a Carson-style top from a '55 T-Bird unit..... Chopped it to get the profile... Narrowed it, shaped it to match the Vee of the DuVall, and will have to make corner extensions to match..... And will set in an oval back glass from another parts-bin top.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksarben Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 That top is looking cool Bill, nice mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 Thanks. I promise the top will look WAY mo' cooler in a bit. It looks pretty not-so-hot at the moment, but it's progressing well......have to build the front corners up and add a little material back to the bottom, but there's a plan in action. Again, sorry about the blurry pix. A good reminder to not get in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 30, 2012 Author Share Posted September 30, 2012 (edited) Rear rolled pan with the rigid-foam corner-fillers filled with epoxy/cotton flock slurry, as well as the corners of the Carson-style top. This stuff is WAY stronger than bondo or any other conglomeration of baking soda / superglue or whatever...I don't like to have my work break and fall off. Or shrink excessively. I've also reinforced the inside of the pan-to-body joint with fine glass cloth, as I want to deeply scribe the joint line on the outside. .....the result, just about ready for primer.... Edited September 30, 2012 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Kron Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 Hi Bill. Looks very nice. The proportion and depth on that pan looks just right! Since I can't use CA at all I am always on the lookout for alternatives. And I have not exactly been in love with most hobby-level fillers, so this approach has caught my eye. Can you give us more detail on the epoxy/cotton thing and maybe the rigid foam thing, too... Oh, and the fine glass cloth, which I have seen you use before but have neglected to ask about... Presumably all this is held together with your epoxy weapon of choice. Thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinistMark Posted September 30, 2012 Share Posted September 30, 2012 This looks fantastic. Really really fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Again, thatks for the interest. Bernard, I'm going to do a how-to on some of the epoxy stuff shortly. Only recent progress is the fitting of the stock 303 Olds valve covers I've been waiting for ever since the Revell '50 Olds kit was announced. In truth, their announced pending-availability was a large part of the inspiration for this bilid. Years ago. Alloy adapter and top-shift LaSalle almost done too, so the shifter hole can go in the right place in the trans hump now. FYI: For anybody who didn't see my post in the '50 Olds kit review thread, the new Revell Olds engine is in the background for reference. It comes with a 3-speed manual Olds-Cad-LaSalle side-shift gearbox, appropriate for many hot-rod applications. ALL the speed equipment from prior AMT and Revell Olds 303-324-371-394 ('49-'63) engines will fit the new engine in the new Revell '50 Olds kit. The finned valve covers on it are small block Chevy (later Olds valve covers would have 3 bolt-holes on the bottom rail, not two) but the Olds parts fit just as well. Edited October 3, 2012 by Ace-Garageguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Frame rail reveals about done.... ....as is the rear rolled-pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_m Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 very nice! the frame and the roll pan look excellent cheers bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) The inspiration for the Carson-style top idea came from the Bill Cox '32 cabriolet, a February 1961 Rod and Custom feature car, currently nearing completion in Josh Mills' shop here. It's being restored to its '61 condition, after having been through a succession of owners and modifications. It's slated to be re-introduced at the Grand National Roadster Show in Pomona, Ca., in January. Just for the record, I've had NOTHING to do with the work on this car in Josh's shop. Anyway, I liked the lines of this custom top so much that I decided to do something similar for this build. Though the 1:1 Cox car doesn't have the laid-back DuVall windshield, this is the look I'm going for, with the curved side-window opening, etc. The rear 3/4 view works very nicely with the rear line of the '32 body. Edited July 14, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Keeping an eye on your engine build Bill. I've got a '50 Olds in the works and I'm looking to "hot rod" the engine even tho it's going into a Kustom.Waiting to see what kind of intake manifold you install as well as the carbs (number of). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Forgot to say that the Carson Top is another feature I'm keeping an eye on too. Thanks for sharing the body work pics Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrichard Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 very very cool build !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Getting real close to paint, and I've never been 100% happy about the way the decklid fit the opening. So, now's the time to fix it. Added a little styrene strip to the bottom edge of the lid, and a little to the right side. Then started squaring up the hole. I just can't bear wonky. The deck will be hinged from the front as a decklid, not from the rear as a rumble seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachinistMark Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Amazing work bill. Simply amazing. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Minarick Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Looking good ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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