badcaditude Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I finally decided to give Pledge with Future Shine a try. I'm thinking about using the "Testors 9215 Paint Sprayer" with the Pledge. I bought a new Testors' Air Brush about ten years ago but I couldn't get it to work. Well, it kind of worked. It sprayed paint for two or three seconds and stopped. It did the same thing when I tried to spray Air Brush cleaner through it. I kept trying but in never sprayed anything but air after that. I didn't have a computer then so; there was no one to ask for help. I was slightly more than miffed so, I gave it a flying lesson from three stories up and I didn't bother to open the window. It flew great but landed badly. I never understood the measurement called "Parts". How much is an actual "Part"? Why not just use a Standard unit of measure for liquid? Is there a device (Measuring Cup or Eye Dropper) that measures "Parts"? I checked the Inter-Web and there are a lot of different answers. With most Automotive body fillers, I would skip the "Parts" Measurements and just guesstimate. Ninety-nine percent of the time, it worked out fine. It just took a little more time to dry. Paint for Air Brushes has to be just right. If I'm using a Standard Air Brush Paint Bottle then, why isn't there a Standard Unit of Measure? At this point, I'd settle for measurements in Metric. I've read the article on ModelKits.com by Paul Nortness. He doesn't mention exactly how to thin Pledge for Air Brush use or the afore mentioned Testors' item. Does anyone know how to thin Pledge with Future Shine for spraying through a "Testors 9215 Paint Sprayer"? I won't buy another Air Brush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 When they say parts they are saying units of measure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 "Parts" isn't a specific amount, it's a unit of ratio. As in two parts paint to one part thinner. Nobody knows how much paint (or whatever) you want to mix, so they give you the ratio, for example, 2 to 1. You provide the measurement according to how much paint you want to mix, but you keep the ratio at 2:1 (2 parts paint to 1 part thinner... or whatever the ratio may be). So whether you want to mix just a little (2 ounces paint to 1 ounce thinner) or a lot (2 quarts paint to 1 quart thinner), the measured amount may change, but the ratio does not, it always stays the same: 2 parts paint to 1 part thinner. And you don't need to thin Future, it's ready to spray as is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltsr Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Try this site - should tell you all you need to know (and more)! http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Question two: I've heard a lot about future...that it replaces conventional clear, that it self-levels, that it will make a lousy paint job look wonderful and cook dinner too. Would someone who's actually used it and has photos of the results jump in here please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harry P. Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Question two: I've heard a lot about future...that it replaces conventional clear, that it self-levels, that it will make a lousy paint job look wonderful and cook dinner too. Would someone who's actually used it and has photos of the results jump in here please? No, it doesn't have magic powers, it won't fix a lousy paint job, it can't cook you dinner and it won't keep you company on a cold winter night. It's nothing more than clear acrylic, plain and simple. Nothing more, nothing less. It's just one of many choices out there for a clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) I tried the foam brush method . It helps add shine to paint and dulled decals finish . But as far as self leveling I was less than pleased. I'm not a big time airbrush user so I'm not sure if or when I use the future method again Edited October 8, 2012 by gtx6970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 (edited) Thanks all. I appreciate your input. Beautiful Alfa Romeo model....is that Pocher? And what finish is on it besides Future clear? I'm really disappointed Future can't cook, but I wasn't expecting it to be much companionshipwise, so that's okay. Guess I'll have to do some experimentation to see if it will work for me, but I'm pretty happy with conventional clear, sanded and polished. Edited October 7, 2012 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks all. I appreciate your input. Beautiful Alfa Romeo model....is that Pocher? And what finish is on it besides Future clear? Yes, Pocher. It was sprayed with a can (don't remember the brand of paint... but I remember I used one brand on the body and another brand on the fenders. Definitely not a "model" paint, I do remember that), then airbrushed with Future. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcaditude Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Thanks for clearing some of that up. I'll probably never understand "Parts". That's fine. It's like Math with letters. I just don't get it and I too old to try. It's most likely one the reasons my Brand New Airbrush went out the window. Whoops. My Mother had an Airbrush way back in the 70's, she couldn't get her's to work either. So maybe it's Genetic too. I'm wondering if the Pledge with Future can be sprayed using a Testors' Acrylic Paint Sprayer from the Set #TES9220T? If it will, then the problem is solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Future needs no thinning as it's pretty runny right out of the bottle. I've used a Badger Crescendo airbrush for years, and with the pressure set at 10-12 PSI------Future has sprayed well for me. However, you need to make quick passes because it can tend to pool and run, especially at the rocker panels. I don't use Future as a clear, I've used it to seal that nasty molded in red and yellow plastic which thankfully, is not much in use anymore. I've sprayed it directly on the plastic, and then primer coats followed by color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I don't use Future as a clear, I've used it to seal that nasty molded in red and yellow plastic which thankfully, is not much in use anymore. I've sprayed it directly on the plastic, and then primer coats followed by color. Bill, is there any reason to be concerned about Future filling in things like door and trunk lines? I've never used it, but it seems like it'd be much thicker than clear paint. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I've never had a problem with Future filling in panel lines as Jacen mentioned as well. Of course, I cut most things open so I guess that's seldom an issue! Here's an example of Future preventing bleed through on that terrible red plastic. I did this '55 T-Bird conversion years ago from Monogram's '56. Of course it was molded in red, and I wanted that light turquoise color (Thunderbird Blue). (pay no attention to the hardtop placed on crooked!) As you can see no bleed through, and yes------it does take a little bit of practice to get it to spray without running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badcaditude Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 This site http://www.swannysmo...leteFuture.html didn't answer anything I was asking. Can it be used over Bare Metal Foil and can I spray it through a Testors Sprayer found in the 9215 set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 This site http://www.swannysmo...leteFuture.html didn't answer anything I was asking. Well then you can simply buy some plastic spoons, foil them, Future them with your 9215 and tell all of us. The poster of Swanny's link offered you information. Now you can return his favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 (edited) This site http://www.swannysmo...leteFuture.html didn't answer anything I was asking. Can it be used over Bare Metal Foil and can I spray it through a Testors Sprayer found in the 9215 set? Yes and and pretty sure you can spray it through that, although, that set is nothing like an Air Brush ,its just like spraying paint from a can As for the parts or ratio issue, its easy You have paint, and you have thinner, you need to mix the thinner to the paint All you have to do is make sure you have more thinner then paint, so lets say you fill your air brush jar 1/3 of the way full, you need to double that amount with thinner 2-1 ration, for how much paint you are using, you need to double that amount with thinner, or try an get it to the same as 2% milk Edited October 28, 2012 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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