redneckrodder Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) I could be getting a chevy bison kit soon it appears to be complete except for the sleeper and decals...so wondering how i should build it and what the pros and cons of the kit are Edited August 30, 2014 by redneckrodder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Also wanting some paint scheme suggestions and might put a chrome mercury sleeper for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The Chevrolet Bison was the not-so-popular cousin of the GMC General. They were out there, but not that many. Some fleets used them (Yellow Freight for example), and some were used by local haulers. Check Hank's Truck Pictures for some good reference pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 What would be the oldest one with the same body as the amt kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The information that I have says that the AMT kit is a 1977-78 Chevrolet Bison with a 116" BBC. Also of note, the kit has a 8V92N in it; but from what I can tell only the 8V92T was offered, not the 8V92N. As far as the kit goes, I haven't built the Bison (yet), but I have built a General; and the fit was pretty bad. Even by AMT standards. If the Bison kit is anything like the General, and I have every reason to believe that it is because it's basically the same kit, it will try your patience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Oh would a twin turbo cummins from a rog k100 (i believe its an ntc 750 or somethin like that)fit into one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 *twin torbo cummins ntc 475 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 From the factory, the following engines were available in the Bison: Detroit Diesel - 6V71N. 6V71T, 8V71N, 8V71T, 6V92T, & 8V92T Cummins - NTC290, NTC350, & NTC400 Caterpillar - 3406 Although the engine from the RoG K100 (Cummins NTTC475) wasn't offered from the factory, the Bison could be purchased as a Glider Kit so that engine could end up in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Will that giant motor fit under the hood though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Now that I don't know. You'll have to build the frame & engine, and see if it works. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olsbooks Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) For what it is worth, the Bison was far more popular in Canada than the US (as a % of market share). Chevy had a much stronger and larger heavy truck dealer network than in the US. Chevy car dealers in Canada could get medium and heavy trucks without all the requirements put on US dealers. Or so I was lead to believe by Chevy dealer friends north of the border in Ontario. But it was not to last. When Chevy bailed the heavies in the early 80's, it really put a hurt on some dealers in cities where GMC had been weak or non existent but Chevy heavy trucks strong. The politics got really interesting to watch from a distance. The Bison and General rolled down the same line with 99.9% the same parts. Badging was the only difference (and occasionally was mixed up when it arrived at the dealer). Paint schemes, interiors, and all were the same. The "spec" books, option codes, parts, and service books at the dealers were the same other than the cover page and in some cases listed both. GMC did a few oddballs that Chevy did not offer late in the game (like the Astro SS), but I am not aware of anything Chevy ever had from the factory that GMC did not. Now VERY early on if I recall, which is always subject correction as it has been a long time ago, a 12V71 was available in the long hood versions (116") but not the shorter hood (108"). Since the AMT kit is the long hood version of the Bison/General most anything within reason SHOULD fit. Kit wise, as mentioned, be prepared for lots and lots of warped parts but with a little skill and lots of patience, it will come out. Good luck. Edited August 26, 2014 by olsbooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Thanks guys i really hope i win it now any suggestions on how to build it ie dumptruck lowboy hauler show rig ...etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Was out bid truck went for $ 50. I sure wasnt gonna pay that price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 How do you change topic titles ? found a titan and would like to know some info about those Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You can change/edit your topic title be editing your first post. I've built both the Chevrolet Titan/90 & GMC Astro/95. They were decent kits. Some fit issues if I remember correctly. The air horns & wipers are oversized & probably should be replaced; and the new reissues have the exhaust piping for different exhaust configurations but not the stacks. Here's my Astro. Replaced the spokes & spring suspension with disks & air ride suspension from the GMC General; horns, wipers & stacks are P/E. Added deck plate from wire mesh & 1/4 fenders from the GMC General. In retrospect, I probably should have left the spokes on the rears: Here is my Titan. Like the Astro, I converted the exhaust to dual outboard stacks. The stacks here are the spare stacks that AMT gives you to make a single stack version (one from the Titan kit & one from the Astro kit). Wipers are P/E, and horns are from the Revell USA Kenworth W900 (or maybe they are from the Revell USA Peterbilt 359). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Buckaroo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 James, there was a Bison kit on eb yesterday with a $25.00 BIN price - just checked on it, someone bid on it for opening bid. (why they didn't pop for the extra $5.00 and seal the deal ) The box was rough but kit looked good. Jim, those are two fantastic looking trucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim B Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thanks, Sean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 You can change/edit your topic title be editing your first post. I've built both the Chevrolet Titan/90 & GMC Astro/95. They were decent kits. Some fit issues if I remember correctly. The air horns & wipers are oversized & probably should be replaced; and the new reissues have the exhaust piping for different exhaust configurations but not the stacks. Here's my Astro. Replaced the spokes & spring suspension with disks & air ride suspension from the GMC General; horns, wipers & stacks are P/E. Added deck plate from wire mesh & 1/4 fenders from the GMC General. In retrospect, I probably should have left the spokes on the rears: Here is my Titan. Like the Astro, I converted the exhaust to dual outboard stacks. The stacks here are the spare stacks that AMT gives you to make a single stack version (one from the Titan kit & one from the Astro kit). Wipers are P/E, and horns are from the Revell USA Kenworth W900 (or maybe they are from the Revell USA Peterbilt 359). thanks didnt know it was that simple those are some beautiful trucks. its a built up that needs to be restored all it nedds that i can tell is the front wheels and tires and fuel tanks but im gonna add a few custom touches to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 James, there was a Bison kit on eb yesterday with a $25.00 BIN price - just checked on it, someone bid on it for opening bid. (why they didn't pop for the extra $5.00 and seal the deal ) The box was rough but kit looked good. Jim, those are two fantastic looking trucks. its ok if i get the titan i bid on i'll be busy..barely have $30 left on my payroll card from working this summerand this one is 15 +10 shipping so it is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted September 1, 2014 Author Share Posted September 1, 2014 What size are the tires that come in these kits...are they 11.00-22 or the smaller ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Anyone ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Buckaroo Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 11.00-20's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted September 2, 2014 Author Share Posted September 2, 2014 Thanks old buckaroo now i just need a front axle and rims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Buckaroo Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Are you rebuilding one ? or just a kit short on parts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneckrodder Posted September 3, 2014 Author Share Posted September 3, 2014 I found a kit that is painted and assembled it just has fallen apart so im going to redo it to my standards...looks like all it needs is the front axle and rims(and front tires but i think i have them covered if the tires are the same in the diamond reo) so hopefully when the auction ends i can get it here as soon as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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