Dan Helferich Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Here is some info on this car: http://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/145280/ As Craig said the Mystery 427 looked much like the production 396/427 but shared no interchangeable parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 I do have a 396/427 style engine I was going to put in the car. I was reading somewhere that in the real car, the original engine was removed, and destroyed??? info on this car is a bit confusing. I do remember the very first 427's looking like a 409. Now, was the real engine a "W" engine, and replaced with Mark IV??? And was this car ever really raced in the 60's??? I can stll install the the Mark IV, but if WAS the 409 style in the car originally, then the 409 style will stay. From the article just posted, it seems it did have the 396 style in it from the start. I also saw an article somewhere on the Sox & Sinclair car, and, IIRC, the "W" engine in it was refered to as a 427. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 (edited) OK after re reading that link, it was stated that the car was a "could have been" but never happened. That would explain why I had never found ANY info of it being a true race car being ran in the 60's. I happened to come across this car on Lucas Decals site, and thought it would be a nice build. I would like for it to be as correct as possible though, especially the powertrain. Edited February 27, 2012 by Brutalform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Irwin Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 I thought the MK II 427 was NASCAR only, that explains it. The 427 W block was the Z11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted October 25, 2013 Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 This thread is back from the dead. I got in the mood to do some building about a few weeks ago. Been away for over a year and a half. Decided to change the engine to look more like the one in the tribute car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 So far, so good. That MCW body looks pretty nice; I can see that on my shelf with a six and dog-dishes in some anonymous color. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted October 26, 2013 Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 I like MCWs stuff. I got some Z-11 stuff, like headers and such, and I probably spent just as much time cleaning them up as I would have on styrene. I'm currently waiting on a 63 Galaxie lightweight interior kit from MCW, for my next project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasafyff Posted October 26, 2013 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Doesn't the Revell 55 Chevy have the Z-11 motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Great looking project... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Doesn't the Revell 55 Chevy have the Z-11 motor? Don't know about that, but at least AMT '62 Super Stock Bel Air kits have Z11 engine parts. That's the kit I'm trying to find with reasonable price to use the engine in my '63 Z11 Impala. That, decals and interior parts are the only things I'm still missing. This looks very interesting. One of my favorite subjects and very nicely built so far. Keep it going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66belair Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 MCW does make some nice stuff, I have a few of their bodies. You are doing some nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 I rebuilt the interior with a different roll bar, and got rid of that bright "Apple Red" Rustoleum, and repainted it with Tamiya "Italian Red". I would have liked to paint the body today, but the weather is not cooperating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Zimmerman Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Are those AMT F - 60 front tires on that chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted October 31, 2013 Author Share Posted October 31, 2013 Are those AMT F - 60 front tires on that chassis? Yes. G-70-14 belted poly glass is on them. Don't know which kit(s) as I got a bunch of tires and rims recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Lookin sharp!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarfan Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Wasn't the Z33 engine more related to the later MKIV big blocks than the 348/409? yes. the mystery motor was the modern big block Chevy like came in the later 60's. 454, 427, 396 and such. I know they first appeared in the "mystery motored cars. The first production car was the 65 Chevy Malibu if memory serves me right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozono Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I like it. Classic and fast....... good combination......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted November 5, 2013 Author Share Posted November 5, 2013 I suppose moving along slowly, is better than not at all. I did some interior, and engine detailing. Also some paint on the body. Got to hit the body with another coat or two. Headers were a bit of a pain to fit in this chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas SCR Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 There was no such thing as a 409 turn into a 427 motor. In 63 the Z-11 package was just all aluminum front end, bumpers,grill,hood,fenders and a over size came called the Z came. The motor rating for 63, 409/409hp 409/425hp rated but really pushing 450hp, Diffenernt heads with aluminum intake and the radicatel came pushing the 409 to over 500+hp rated. The mistory motor was a complete different motor in all as it was the early 427 and between all of them that was made there was no interchange parts between the motors. This means if you had two of them nothing could be switched as they was trying a ton of new stuff all in each motor for nascar only. This car that you are doing and you have read it right was just a "What If" car, Hayden left Chevy at the early part of 63 after they left drag racing and this was the main thing as to wonder if Hayden and Chevy still was in drag racing in 63 what he would have been driving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted November 6, 2013 Share Posted November 6, 2013 Looking great. nice engine detail.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 I got some time to do the foiling this morning. Not much time to work on models, while I am at school all week. I'm sure it will all pay off when I find employment..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrKerry Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Looks good!!!! I like the stance of it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) There was no such thing as a 409 turn into a 427 motor. In 63 the Z-11 package was just all aluminum front end, bumpers,grill,hood,fenders and a over size came called the Z came. The motor rating for 63, 409/409hp 409/425hp rated but really pushing 450hp, Diffenernt heads with aluminum intake and the radicatel came pushing the 409 to over 500+hp rated. The mistory motor was a complete different motor in all as it was the early 427 and between all of them that was made there was no interchange parts between the motors. This means if you had two of them nothing could be switched as they was trying a ton of new stuff all in each motor for nascar only. This car that you are doing and you have read it right was just a "What If" car, Hayden left Chevy at the early part of 63 after they left drag racing and this was the main thing as to wonder if Hayden and Chevy still was in drag racing in 63 what he would have been driving. The first Chevy 427 was indeed a modified 409 http://www.348-409.com/z11.html The "mystery motor" was a whole other beast, it was loosely based on the 409 but looked like the later 1965-forward Rat motor, nothing fits between the mystery motor and the rat motor tho'. http://hotrodenginetech.com/chevrolet-427-mystery-motor/ http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_0611_chevy_mystery_motor/ Edited November 23, 2013 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ju Ju Posted November 24, 2013 Share Posted November 24, 2013 Looks good-the 1963 is my favorite year of the early Impala/ Bel Air and Biscayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutalform Posted November 26, 2013 Author Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) . Edited May 10, 2018 by Brutalform Mid spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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