Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Enjoy and be inspired: (PLEASE NOTE): the following is intended for adults and adults only who are capable of exercising common sense and judgement. Please consider the following keeping safety and local regulations in mind. Also, remember that there are spray booths ready-made by professional companies that you can turn to, etc) If you don't want to take the time, safety risks, etc, then here's a video that will inspire you to want to airbrush just the same: Edited January 13, 2011 by DamnCranky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Here's another approach: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicsafety Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Well this is one of the best, informative post I've seen on DIY spraybooths . Thanks guys I have been pondering how to do one in my set up and I think I will use parts from both ideas. I love the fan and the pocket lights. Can't wait to get off work and build my own! Edited January 13, 2011 by publicsafety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTMust Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks for this Virgil. I really need to get off my a.. and make myself a spray booth. These videos have given me some great ideas. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 As usual Virgil, thanks for the videos and inspiration. Not a very strong fan and system but for starters is pretty good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 I think the idea is to custom make your own, so get stronger fans, accessories. Personally I would get a white plastic bin, as large as possible and then get some airconditioning filters and use them in front of the fan. It will help keep the overspray down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I think the idea is to custom make your own, so get stronger fans, accessories. Personally I would get a white plastic bin, as large as possible and then get some airconditioning filters and use them in front of the fan. It will help keep the overspray down! I agree with you brother, definitely stronger fans but, by sharing this, you have given people more ideas and options on how to go around doing their own booths. Thanks again bro!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Sharing is the whole idea, amigo. And yes, YOUTUBE trolling often pays off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Great ideas. Now that I have a "shop" big enough to accomodate a booth I think I'm gonna try making one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Those of you who might ending building one, please feel free to share your results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward smith Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Thanks for the heads up on this, I think I will be trying it some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra7c7er Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I used to build spay booths out of cardboard and would use computer case fans. Nothing beats 2 100 CFM fans and I would use a metal filter used on range hoods with a piece of foam filter material behind that. Two computer case LED lights in the top corners of the box provided lights and it worked great but like the guy said cardboard doesn't last long but when it costs you less than 5 bucks to put together it is cost effective. It was a little loud by computer case standards at 50 Db but it moved a ton of air A RC track and shop I worked at in Indianapolis custom built a spray booth using 12 50 CFM fans with a furnace filter. The entire back wall was fans and it blew directly out a window. Anyone who wants a spray booth and builds model cars can easily make your own. The little bit of electronics is a bit daunting when you first look at it but in reality it's pretty easy. Edited January 13, 2011 by ra7c7er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) OK, so my brother was just over, and I had to show him these ... He's been an Electrician for nearly 35 years. Bathroom fans are to a degree "sealed" but not in the way necessary for painting, they are not designed for constant exposure to paint fumes and buildup.Nor are PC fans. These are TIME BOMBS, completely and totally unsafe. There is a reason actual spray-booths both full size and hobby size are expensive. They have the proper SEALED fan motors and electrical connections. All it takes is one spark and someones going to the ER or worse. There are young kids on here, this post should be taken down before somebody gets hurt. There are places you can cut corners if that's how you choose to do things, this is not one of them ... seriously ? hardwired lights ? battery operated LED tap lights are a much safer alternative and undoubtedly cheaper. Seriously, the mods need to delete this before there's an injury... Edited January 13, 2011 by KingSix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra7c7er Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) OK, so my brother was just over, and I had to show him these ... He's been an Electrician for nearly 35 years. These are TIME BOMBS, completely and totally unsafe. There is a reason actual spray-booths both full size and hobby size are expensive. They have the proper SEALED fan motors and electrical connections. All it takes is one spark and someones going to the ER or worse. There are young kids on here, this post should be taken down before somebody gets hurt. People have been building these for years. My step dad is a electrician also and he has helped me build them in the past. If you build it correctly there is no more of a chance for it to catch fire than for your house to catch fire. It's all plugging wires in. The sealed motor vs. exposed posses little risk to anything. The only thing I have ever seen happen is the exposed motors will get gummed up with paint and stop working if not properly filtered. Per what you are saying nobody should use computers because they use the same connections and fans. I build computers for friends and I have been taught some electrical work by my step dad. Also nothing in either of the two videos were hard wired I am not sure what you are talking about. Edited January 13, 2011 by ra7c7er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMc Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Bob...Dan isn't talking about bad wiring...Its called a flash fire when lacquer fumes explode due to the open motor....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 People have been building these for years. My step dad is a electrician also and he has helped me build them in the past. If you build it correctly there is no more of a chance for it to catch fire than for your house to catch fire. It's all plugging wires in. The sealed motor vs. exposed posses little risk to anything. The only thing I have ever seen happen is the exposed motors will get gummed up with paint and stop working if not properly filtered. Per what you are saying nobody should use computers because they use the same connections and fans. I build computers for friends and I have been taught some electrical work by my step dad. Really ? You spray flammable chemicals at your computer fans ? That's what you're saying in essence. I build my own PC's as well and a spray booth has not thing one to do with a PC. I am however a professional body tech. Familiar with the laws an regs involved in a full scale paint booth, both in design and operation. The laws are in place for a reason. You said it yourself, " The only thing I have ever seen happen is the exposed motors will get gummed up with paint and stop working if not properly filtered". Do you have any clue how dangerous that actually is ? Point of fact, this IS dangerous, and having it posted here where young kids have access to it is irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 Obviously, safety IS a concern, so you have to get the right equipment, but the idea behind my posting these was to spark (no pun intended) the imagination to build something that works and that is safe and that will help you get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I am sure the moderators here know exactly how many "kids" are participating on this forum. And they would also know how old they are. I am willing to bet that at least a high percentage of us here are adults. And so when I posted this I was simply trying to get ideas across to other adults who I assume are quite capable of using common sense, etc . . . AND YES! SAFETY IS IMPORTANT. There are also ready-made spray booths on the market. Edited January 13, 2011 by DamnCranky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSix Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I agree with your theory 110%. Its a great idea, and it can be done, but not for $30, and certainly not safely for $30. Have you priced a sealed fan motor lately ? The plastic bins alone are a bad idea. They are designed to "contain". And contain they will, even fumes. When the motor becomes gummed up with over spray, and it will, they will heat up, the bins by design will contain the fumes, thus the recipe for a time bomb. Especially with your longer , deeper plastic bins. I would no sooner have one of these in my home than a rabid Hyena, but to each your own. I am making a point from a parents point of view, kids should not do this. This post should be taken down or at the very least edited so that kids who see should be made aware this is not a simple home project, and should be done only with an educated adults supervision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie8575 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 I agree that I might use a squirrel-cage blower in place of the little bathroom fan, but the basic idea is great. I never would've thought to use a Tote-Box or something similar for a spray booth. Squirrel cages can be found in your local shoppers and Craigslist inexpensively. Charlie Larkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I will leave the decision of what to do with this thread up to ADMIN, but a point can be made that if every time you want to share good (or bad) ideas on a forum such as this you have to ask permission or run it by a legal department, or by a board of concerned parents, I think that would defeat the whole spirit of exchanging views and ideas. Dan, again, your point is perfectly well taken which is why I went back to the beginning and gave folks here a disclaimer and an alternative for those who don't want to either spend the time or risk safety. Edited January 13, 2011 by DamnCranky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ra7c7er Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) I agree with your theory 110%. Its a great idea, and it can be done, but not for $30, and certainly not safely for $30. Have you priced a sealed fan motor lately ? The plastic bins alone are a bad idea. They are designed to "contain". And contain they will, even fumes. When the motor becomes gummed up with over spray, and it will, they will heat up, the bins by design will contain the fumes, thus the recipe for a time bomb. Especially with your longer , deeper plastic bins. I would no sooner have one of these in my home than a rabid Hyena, but to each your own. I am making a point from a parents point of view, kids should not do this. This post should be taken down or at the very least edited so that kids who see should be made aware this is not a simple home project, and should be done only with an educated adults supervision. Nobody said a kid should build one of these or even use one by themselves. Kids shouldn't be allowed to use any sort of spray paints without proper ventilation and safety gear at all. I also agree that a kid shouldn't build anything electrical but what does that have to do with a modeler building a spray booth? I just looked up sealed fan units at the local hardware store and they run 13-20 bucks. Granted to get proper airflow you would need more than one but they still make the booth hundreds of dollars cheaper than a commercial one. went back to the beginning and gave folks here a disclaimer and an alternative for those who don't want to either spend the time or risk safety. Honestly it's sad that you had to post a disclaimer just to post a video. Edited January 13, 2011 by ra7c7er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 BTW--here's more information on a perfectly adequate ready made spray booth, and the price is reasonable: http://www.modelexpo-online.com/product.asp?ITEMNO=HSE420 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemodeler Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 Virgil, I appreciate the video and how-to as I need to get some type of booth set up going. I wrestle with the idea of building my own versus buying a ready to use unit. The caution from some members about using a blower fan that is designed to be used with paint fumes is well taken. In the end, we are all responsible for our actions (I think, the ACLU may be changing that )so whether one follows your tutorial or goes out and drops their hard earned money is really up to them. There was an article some 11 years ago in Fine Scale Modeler about building a booth and using a particular type of fan motor from W.W. Grainger that was designed for hazardous type fumes. IIRC that blower motor now runs about $120 but the design used in the article keep the actual fan out of the airstream, essentially keeping the fan clean. I know I have that magazine around here because I bought for that specific reason. Thanks to everyone for their input on this and I agree that something like this should not be done without some basic knowledge of electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I like the idea of the tote box booth,but setting on a tabletop that puts it at a convenient height,then fastening a piece of 1/4 inch hardboard/pegboard on top and using it as a sanding table to catch the dust from sanding plastic,plastic fillers,resin etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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