curt raitz Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 My good friend Steve Allemand has created a decal sheet for the Magic Muffler Fiat AA/Fuel Altered in 1/25th scale. The car: The decal sheet: The solid black images are actually printed white, they are placed on the model first, then the decals with color/detail are placed over them. Steve included both Vavoline and Pennzoil decals. If interested in acquiring a set of these, you can contact Steve via email at: allemand64@aim.com thanx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagedragcrazy Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks curt Ive already contacted Steve and have a set ordered he seems like a prett nice fellow and his work is awsome!!! Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks Curt, I have already ordered a couple sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsntrucks4you Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) Thanks Curt for the information. I've ordered 2 sets BTW: I'm currently working on a 3D printed chassis for a Fiat Toppling like the Magic Muffler Fiat or other AA Fiats As soon as I get it I'll take some pictures Edited May 2, 2015 by carsntrucks4you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks Curt for the information. I've ordered 2 sets BTW: I'm currently working on a 3D printed chassis for the Magic Muffler Fiat fiat frame.jpg As soon as I get it I'll take some pictures Will you be selling the frame when it is completed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsntrucks4you Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Will you be selling the frame when it is completed? Could be, but please led me check if it is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGIC MUFFLER Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hi Guys, I'm the owner of the Magic Muffler Fiat - Blown Fuel Altered. It's nice to see so much interest in my car. I have been working with Jim Miles for the last 12 yrs restoring this car. It has been a very long and tedious project. There were no surviving pictures of the chassis and it took about 10 years before I actually got it right. Jim Miles built the chassis in his garage in 1965 and built it again in the same spot and same garage over 45 yrs later. Only he knew what the chassis looked like originally. I was pretty specific when the pictures - articles were done on the car that no detailed shots were done on the chassis. I never wanted anyone to really know what it looked like. I can say that I have sunk well in excess of 6 figures restoring this car. Someone started making a clone of it and that was stopped pretty quick. My attorney was ready to file suit against him for infringement on the rights to the Magic Muffler name, Genie logo, car etc etc…. Other racers have trademarked their names & cars too like Rich Guasco of the Pure Hell. Try making a real car in tribute to his first car and you will most likely wind up in court. There are other guys too but can't mention them all here. I know because I hang with these guys when we do our cacklefests. Someone is now making t-shirts and other things trying to make money from the car. Mark owns all rights to the name Magic Muffler and actually nothing can be copied. My attorney is working now where I own the logo and design of the car etc… This will stop anything being made with Magic Muffler on it. Personally, I'm not to worried about a few guys here trying to do a few decals to make the model. It would be nice to see some of you guys build this car. "GMP" made the model as you already know and they screwed up so bad on the model that I wrote them and told them how much of an embarrassment it was to have that kit produced and try to display it with the real car. All the fixes were supposed to be done before the release and they never did it because of costs. Papers were already signed and there was nothing I could do about it at that point. It was a terrible experience with them. The picture of the chassis you have shown is incorrect. It's maybe 50% correct but so many tubes are not right. I guess it's ok if one wants to just build an altered but, it's not right for this car though. The model that has been built of it here by a member was a good try at it too. The decals are placed incorrectly, pipes are at different angles, chassis is not as the real car either. I don't want to slam someones work but, it will be a hard car to replicate correctly if someone doesn't have the photos I have. The articles (pics) are good though but not precise. The picture that is shown in the first post of the Rodders Journal side shot really irked me when Rodders printed that shot. Here's why: I worked for over a decade to get the stance right on this car. When that shot was taken, Jeff or Steve tweaked that photo and gave the car a downward stance - in other words, they tipped the photo down. The car actually sits with the nose a little higher in the front. When I saw that photo I was really upset that the stance was not correct and then I realized that, they tilted the photo and then did the Print of - "Blaze of Glory". If you put a ruler along the bottom of the tires in the picture, you will see what I mean. This is not the stance I worked on for years. I have a few dozen original photos of this car that Jim keeps finding in his attic and gives them to me. I have studied this car till I put myself to sleep. I know what it is supposed to look like and that's not it! Anyway, I could ramble on here forever about the car. I hope I can get some decals for my build too as I started on it 15 yrs ago or more. I wanted the car since I was 12 yrs old when I lived in Canada. I now live in Southern Ca just 2 minutes down the road from Jim Miles. It's been an awesome journey with a child hood dream coming true. Again, I'm not here to slam anyones work because the talent on this site literally blows me away. I wish I could build as good as the samples I have seen on some threads lately. Bill Corbett Owner: Magic Muffler Fiat Topolino - Blown Fuel Altered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddyfink Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Hi Billy, Thanks for sharing info on the MM car, but I am curious, was this the car that was parked in the Swap Meet area a few years back at the Hot Rod Reunion? I remember seeing a Fiat with the MM logo. I was just a chassis and body on wheels. Thought it was sale. Jesse C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAGIC MUFFLER Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not many people notice the stance difference ….. but I'm kind of anal and this is the difference! Their shot and after I straightened it to how the car should sit. Not much difference but I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chernecki Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 I can notice the difference immediately, much better. The window sill is level in the articles picture and angled up in the corrected picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curt raitz Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Hi Guys, I'm the owner of the Magic Muffler Fiat - Blown Fuel Altered. It's nice to see so much interest in my car. I have been working with Jim Miles for the last 12 yrs restoring this car. It has been a very long and tedious project. There were no surviving pictures of the chassis and it took about 10 years before I actually got it right. Jim Miles built the chassis in his garage in 1965 and built it again in the same spot and same garage over 45 yrs later. Only he knew what the chassis looked like originally. I was pretty specific when the pictures - articles were done on the car that no detailed shots were done on the chassis. I never wanted anyone to really know what it looked like. I can say that I have sunk well in excess of 6 figures restoring this car. Someone started making a clone of it and that was stopped pretty quick. My attorney was ready to file suit against him for infringement on the rights to the Magic Muffler name, Genie logo, car etc etc…. Other racers have trademarked their names & cars too like Rich Guasco of the Pure Hell. Try making a real car in tribute to his first car and you will most likely wind up in court. There are other guys too but can't mention them all here. I know because I hang with these guys when we do our cacklefests. Someone is now making t-shirts and other things trying to make money from the car. Mark owns all rights to the name Magic Muffler and actually nothing can be copied. My attorney is working now where I own the logo and design of the car etc… This will stop anything being made with Magic Muffler on it. Personally, I'm not to worried about a few guys here trying to do a few decals to make the model. It would be nice to see some of you guys build this car. "GMP" made the model as you already know and they screwed up so bad on the model that I wrote them and told them how much of an embarrassment it was to have that kit produced and try to display it with the real car. All the fixes were supposed to be done before the release and they never did it because of costs. Papers were already signed and there was nothing I could do about it at that point. It was a terrible experience with them. The picture of the chassis you have shown is incorrect. It's maybe 50% correct but so many tubes are not right. I guess it's ok if one wants to just build an altered but, it's not right for this car though. The model that has been built of it here by a member was a good try at it too. The decals are placed incorrectly, pipes are at different angles, chassis is not as the real car either. I don't want to slam someones work but, it will be a hard car to replicate correctly if someone doesn't have the photos I have. The articles (pics) are good though but not precise. The picture that is shown in the first post of the Rodders Journal side shot really irked me when Rodders printed that shot. Here's why: I worked for over a decade to get the stance right on this car. When that shot was taken, Jeff or Steve tweaked that photo and gave the car a downward stance - in other words, they tipped the photo down. The car actually sits with the nose a little higher in the front. When I saw that photo I was really upset that the stance was not correct and then I realized that, they tilted the photo and then did the Print of - "Blaze of Glory". If you put a ruler along the bottom of the tires in the picture, you will see what I mean. This is not the stance I worked on for years. I have a few dozen original photos of this car that Jim keeps finding in his attic and gives them to me. I have studied this car till I put myself to sleep. I know what it is supposed to look like and that's not it! Anyway, I could ramble on here forever about the car. I hope I can get some decals for my build too as I started on it 15 yrs ago or more. I wanted the car since I was 12 yrs old when I lived in Canada. I now live in Southern Ca just 2 minutes down the road from Jim Miles. It's been an awesome journey with a child hood dream coming true. Again, I'm not here to slam anyones work because the talent on this site literally blows me away. I wish I could build as good as the samples I have seen on some threads lately. Bill Corbett Owner: Magic Muffler Fiat Topolino - Blown Fuel Altered Bill Your comments on my build of the Magic Muffler Fiat are well taken. ​I tried to duplicate the chassis with what photos I could find. The chassis ended up being about 1/8 of an inch too wide. Hence placing the exhaust headers outside the frame rail caused the angle of both to be off. ​The decals I used on this build are incorrect, but I can't print white decals. The decal set Steve has are correct with the white areas printed on them. Curt . Edited May 2, 2015 by curt raitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagedragcrazy Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Hey curt thanks for getting Steve to do the decals I got mine in the mail already and Steve sure seems like a nice guy we have had several conversations by email and you have a good friend there thanks buddy. Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grt222 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Anybody have any info on paint color or a close match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carsntrucks4you Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Thanks Curt for the information. I've ordered 2 sets BTW: I'm currently working on a 3D printed chassis for a Fiat Toppling like the Magic Muffler Fiat or other AA Fiats fiat frame.jpg As soon as I get it I'll take some pictures I got the chassis from Shapeways. It is bent a bit so I have to redesign it. I'll keep you informed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Steve or Curt. Are the Decals still available for this build? Mr. Corbett. What a great Story! Thank You for sharing. Alan Alexis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo64 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/14/2022 at 6:57 AM, stavanzer said: Steve or Curt. Are the Decals still available for this build? Mr. Corbett. What a great Story! Thank You for sharing. Alan Alexis Alan, I sent you an email regarding the Magic Muffler decals. Steve A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Thank You. Ill be responding back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon17 Posted November 25, 2023 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Hi Curt and Steve. Are the decals for the Magic Muffler car still available? Steve, is your email address still good to contact you at? Thank you! Edited November 25, 2023 by Brandon17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo64 Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Brandon17 said: Hi Curt and Steve. Are the decals for the Magic Muffler car still available? Steve, is your email address still good to contact you at? Thank you! Brandon, I sent you a message about the decals, and yes they are still available. Steve A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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