71drolds Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 heres a new project im starting on. i was looking through a Hemmings Muscle Machines mag and this picture of this chevy just struck me as really cool. i bought the black widow kit for the 150 body and got a old "spirit of 57" gasser kit minus the motor to use the flip front end and rear wheel wells along with some other stuff. i was warned that they wouldn't match up and sure enough, they dont. so i glued the hood shut on the 150 and cut off the front clip. i also trimed away all the inner structure. i swapped the lower quarter panels from the gasser to the 150, and thats where im at right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Awesome! Send it to me when you're done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 i need a second opinion. i think i know what wheels are being used on the real car and have ordered them. looking at the picture of the real car, what wheels do you think they are using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T. Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh yeah, that is cool! I like how, instead of just radiusing the 150 quarters, you used the MPC quarters with the fenderwell lip. Looks to me like the rear wheels are American "Daisy" mags (aka 200-S) and fronts are American mags. Keep up the good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragracer Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Oh yeah, that is cool! I like how, instead of just radiusing the 150 quarters, you used the MPC quarters with the fenderwell lip. Looks to me like the rear wheels are American "Daisy" mags (aka 200-S) and fronts are American mags. Keep up the good work! I agree completely, the build looks great. The rear wheels are "Daisy" mags (aka American 200S Racing wheels), you can get some resin ones from Competion Resins (I bought a few a while back and they are great). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W117monte Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) The fronts could be American racing torque thrusts, and the rears are the 200-s as others have said. 200s were used on the TwoLane 55! The Badman 55 chevy gasser kit has the 200-s wheels for the rear. Maybe you could even use some of those parts to make your gasser if you can find one of those kits. Edited February 17, 2011 by W117monte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wow! That's a big difference between the two frontends! I knew they were off a little,but I didn't think it would be that much! Aren't both kits supposed to be 1/25 scale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Wow! That's a big difference between the two frontends! I knew they were off a little,but I didn't think it would be that much! Aren't both kits supposed to be 1/25 scale? yeah, both kits are 1/25! i couldnt believe the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 my thoughts exactly on the wheels. i knew the rears were daisy's, but i wasnt 100% sure the fronts were torque thrust. on a side note. ive been scouring the net to find more picts of this car so i can get decals made for it. it ran from about '68-'70 around the midwest. the picture was taken at U.S. 30 dragway in indiana. the name of the car is copperhead. the sponsers were Mikes Pit Stop in lansing IL and i think A&W Engineering. does anybody know of this car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I don't know much about the car you're asking about but I do love me a Tri-5 Chev gasser. The pics of the original car and the progress pics you've posted so far puts me in the front row with a bag of popcorn for this show. I'm looking forward to watching you put this one together!! It's gonna be sweet for sure! I'm really concerned about the difference between those kits though. I have both of these kits and wanted to build both of them but not if they're that far off. I know the Black Widow kit is one of (if not the best) '57 Chevy models done so far. Anyone have any experience with the ol' MPC flip-nose kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperStockAndy Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 The rears are definitely AR 200S. The fronts are AR Torq-Thrust D's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwc43 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 yeah, both kits are 1/25! i couldnt believe the difference. The Spirit of 57 if it was a real drag car could have a scaled down body to cut the weight and aero. They did it all the time including in NASCAR until that was put a stop to. So it may very well be in scale. Something you'll have to research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Brown Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 The Spirit of 57 if it was a real drag car could have a scaled down body to cut the weight and aero. They did it all the time including in NASCAR until that was put a stop to. So it may very well be in scale. Something you'll have to research. That wouldn't have been legal in the gas classes, or in any classes where a full-bodied '57 would likely run. It's just the usual variation you see in scale from one kit to another. Compare the AMT '57 from the '60s to the one from about ten years ago - vast size difference, similar to the MPC vs Black Widow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwc43 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 That wouldn't have been legal in the gas classes, or in any classes where a full-bodied '57 would likely run. It's just the usual variation you see in scale from one kit to another. Compare the AMT '57 from the '60s to the one from about ten years ago - vast size difference, similar to the MPC vs Black Widow. Well it sounded good when I typed it ... lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Brown Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Well it sounded good when I typed it ... lol. It's much more practical on a NASCAR car because it's got a completely non-stock chassis. Same with the "7/8" scale Top Sportsman cars like Christine and others - they were all tube chassis cars. To narrow something with a stock frame and interior, you're talking about a mountain of work, only to end up with a car that's not legal for much of anything, classwise. It would be nice if there was a sort of "industry standard" for models, so if you bought four different 1:25 scale '57 Chevys, for instance, they'd all be pretty close to the same size. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I'll bet it's not nearly as big a problem with aircraft and military stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldscool Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Looks like you are doing some really good work there. grumpy gus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 thanks for the words of encouragement. well the firewall has to be totaly scratch built. the stock stuff wont work now that the front clip is removed. i used a piece of styrine to go across the top of the cowl. the sides were really giving me trouble. i just couldnt get the right shape to match the doors. then it hit me. since i butchered the "spirit" model anyway, i could cut up the flip front end (im sure someone will hate me for that)that perfectly matches the shape of the doors. so here is the front fenders mounted to the inside of the doors on the 150. i'll put up more pictures when i get the whole firewall scratched up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markus355 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 brilliant ideas of using what ya got.... Why do it yourself if its already been done for you? Work smart not hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliable Resin Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) Lookin' Good ... seems " great minds , think alike " ! If anyone can appreciate the amt. of work that takes , it's me ..... This is the Base POST 210 57 Chevy : *Brought back to Stock wheel wells in the rear *Removed the 57 steel ribs between the side trim *Reworked the front clip , so it fit's the body ( better ) & filled in the hood hole *Also reworked the interior w/ a larger drive tran hump ( so it works w/ other amt kits chassis ), bumped the rear inter. back corners out, to allow for larger tires up under stock wheel well's i.e . Cheater Slicks *Then smoothed out the entire interior , from that "dated pleated look" from the Disco era. What's nice about this piece , it offers various options for builds , one can create a Stock , by cutting hood from frt. fenders, & attach the fenders to the body. ETC.... My personal plans are to create a weekend warrior Gasser & jack up the front w/ my "Big Boy Springs " w/o the front bumper.... just love that look Have a few minor details to dial in & *should have this in Rubber by weeks end ! suggested donor : the re~issue Spirit of 57 , or any amt/Ertl 57 Edited February 19, 2011 by Reliable Resin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Notarangelo Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I've been thinking of doing the same thing as a summer project to the 1/12th scale one I bought last summer from a thrift store still sealed in the box for 25 bucks. keep on at it i wana see how it turns out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I was really looking forward to putting that one together too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Wood Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Matt I think it Looks Great,Keep at it, I want to see it Done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 heres some slow progress. ive got a ton of sanding and body work to do now. still waiting for my wheels and tires to show up. i'll post a mock up pic when i get them. i know its not 100% accurate, but works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Looks great to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71drolds Posted February 28, 2011 Author Share Posted February 28, 2011 man im really bummed out now. my last lead for pictures of this cAr just burned up. i dont think i'll be able to get decals made for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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