Rob Hall Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Wagons had bumper guards, found several pics with them.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Wagons had bumper guards, found several pics with them.. Yes, even the factory brochures show guards on the wagons... ..but they are, by necessity, not as tall as the guards on the non-wagons... Edited February 21, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Wagons had bumper guards, found several pics with them.. Not the ones on the test model which would mean you couldn't open the trunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I only wanted 'em smaller...not gone all together. I hope Revell just "corrects" 'em, not removes 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) look at the photo of the actual wagon, yellow and white, above, and notice that not only are the bumper guards lower/shorter than on the non-wagon, but they look to be wider and chunkier too. then look at the back of the wagon model. they are too high and also too narrow. so you are probably better off without them. especially since they look like they will foul the tailgate when it is folded down. also notice the artist rendition of the ones on the blue and white wagon are narrow. so maybe those are aftermarket guards on the yellow and white wagon? I know I remember those sort of guards in the jc whitney catalogue. jb Edited February 22, 2015 by jbwelda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atmobil Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I looks to me that the bumperguards for the wagon is fitted lower down than on the sedan. Could it be that original bumperguards are the same type for sedan and wagon and that they are simply mounted further down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike 51 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'm virtually certain there were at least 2 types of rear bumper guards...Ford made lots of sedans n 'wagons (and Ranchero's) and Fairlanes even had thier own rear bumpers,tho I don't recall if they had bumper guards, if they did that would make 3 types. Trim choices/models were quite broad back then. I hope Revell just corrects the ones shown before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 (edited) Here's a pretty original one with short, wide-ish ones, unlike the sedans in brochure. 58's didn't have guards, as taillights would hit them when gate dropped best I can tell. Save the snide comments about complaints. Most of us are looking forward to this kit. However, CORRECT rear bumperguards are found on pictures 2,4,6, 8, and 9 of Google for 57 Country Squire. So if they are wrong, we can't complain? Research so hard these days? Just shut up and carve dents in tailgate if we're real modelers like you guys, right? It was explained that someone at R-M promised correct ones. No comments other than "I hope so" with pics of brochures, 1:1's. "What?? We are getting gypped out of a pair of bumper guards?" seems to imply defects without being seen, and living with them, anyone bothered by them (the usual really silly rant that follows an announcement of any type! ) is wrong. Why don't we use this as exercise to see what happens between test shot/prototype, promise of correction, and final kit? Then you guys can explain how something that took 0.33 seconds per Google with 5 pics in first 3 rows could not be put into kit? I hope R-M gets it right, I believe they can, but this is a small but relevant detail. I want to hear how the complaining non-complainers meet the possibility once kit is in our hands. Or, you guys can do a "How-to" on putting a dent and small crease at what height in tailgate for prototype's sake BTW, bumper isn't straight, it is pretty original car, we all can fix crooked bumpers if that's a problem. http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/07/01/hmn_feature13.html Link to awesome E Del Rio, 2x4 makeover of complete original body car, including bumpers. Nice detail pics too. Google for 57 Ford Del Rio took 0.28 seconds. Hours of research. Horrors. Edited to add actual quotes for truth later once kit out as first shot in kit discussion. Edited February 22, 2015 by keyser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Revell stated at the IHOBBY interview that the bumper guards would not be there on the released model. That was back in early October. Here actual info, no nonsense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) >Here actual info, no nonsense! do you believe everything you read on the interwebs? because there are a lot of potential ambiguities in that statement you quoted (bumper guards not being on released model...what does that mean? different bumper guards? no bumper guards?) not to mention it being from a blind source with no real accountability ("Revell"). jb Edited February 23, 2015 by jbwelda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Well put, Kemo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) How many angels can dance on top of a 1:25 scale bumper guard that may or may not exist? Edited February 23, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Is that a sedan guard, or a wagon/Ranchero/Courier guard? Did you mean the bumper guard didn't exist, or the angels? Wait, what? I'm hoping additional versions of the tool could be a Ranchero or Courier. So tooling bumper with short guards wold be beneficial. Front bumpers had tall guards like rest of line if they had them. Here's 2 pics of very basic cars, 300 level trim, with short rear guards. I have only found 1 picture of wagon with no rear guards, and have found wagons with no front guards and tiny rear ones. BTW, I was wrong about 58, but these are the weirdest little bumper guards I've ever seen. Link below to 223 6 powered wagon with usual rear guards. http://www.boldride.com/ride/1957/ford-ranch-station-wagon#gallery/3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Ohhh...that poor jacked-up car. What's it got, a gasser straight-axle? Doesn't really go with the hubcaps. Must be a hyper-cool mixed-genre thing I'm too old to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt T. Posted February 23, 2015 Author Share Posted February 23, 2015 How many angels can dance on top of a 1:25 scale bumper guard that may or may not exist? I actually laughed out loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsepower Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) Those are technically not bumper guards on the '58 wagon, but license plate lights. I noticed that the plate lights are in the guards in the pictures of the '57 s too, but don't know how they're installed on the ones without guards since there's no pictures posted yet of one without guards. Well, I did the unthinkable and super difficult search for actual vehicles with the different options, and still can't see clearly how the plate lights are done on the plain Jane bumpers, but I do know that if it was up to me, I'd rather have the front and rear bumpers both without guards. Just my opinion but I think they look much cleaner that way. Edited February 23, 2015 by horsepower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 The grey and white jacked up thing is only pic I found of seeming factory car without guards. If you blow up photo, it appears to have tiny plate lights at top edge of plate on side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 58 year old car. Could it be? Bumper.... ...not original? Could be. All I see on bumper is... ...glare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 58 year old car. Could it be? Bumper...not original? Could be. All I see on bumper is...glare. Like I said, only non guard photo I'd found. Sorry it didn't meet standards. Bumper bolt pattern seems correct. I hunted more, found a non bumper-guard car. I think it's been relieved of guards. Also found 57 with 58 style lights. It's actually a Meteor Ranchero. These are huge for old eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Any other photos of the Meteor wagons and Rancheros? I wish Revell would make Meteor variations of their '57 Fords. And yes I know about AMT's '57 Ford including a Meteor grille. But it's not a complete Meteor grille. The wrap around into the fenders is missing. Plus all other Meteor trim features are missing from all of the '57 Ford kits. Should have noted, I would like to see more of the Meteor Ranchero above. They are as rare as hen teeth, and offered only one year. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Any other photos of the Meteor wagons and Rancheros? Do a Google/Bing/Alta Vista image search and you'll be busy for hours. There is an existing topic for '57 Ford reference pictures here: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=78505 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 The jacked up wagon looks like a hopper, with hydraulics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordRodnKustom Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Is that a sedan guard, or a wagon/Ranchero/Courier guard? Did you mean the bumper guard didn't exist, or the angels? Wait, what? I'm hoping additional versions of the tool could be a Ranchero or Courier. So tooling bumper with short guards wold be beneficial. Front bumpers had tall guards like rest of line if they had them. Here's 2 pics of very basic cars, 300 level trim, with short rear guards. I have only found 1 picture of wagon with no rear guards, and have found wagons with no front guards and tiny rear ones. BTW, I was wrong about 58, but these are the weirdest little bumper guards I've ever seen. Link below to 223 6 powered wagon with usual rear guards. http://www.boldride.com/ride/1957/ford-ranch-station-wagon#gallery/3 Wonder what Aint Bea is fixin' for lunch? Great picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I guess I had better clarify some information here . As a young man , I learned what the appendages are for . A family member owned a '41 Stud without these , originally called "overriders" . I was with he and Dad in a Parking Lot . The Lot was on a Hill . As he parked , before he could apply the parking Brake the Stud lurched over lapping the Bumpers upon another Car without them . Quite a bit of "jacking" Safely (lol) on a Hillside to separate the 2 Cars . "Gaurds" were optional equipment devices for decades in the Automobile Industry . So , when cou;ld we expect the Wagons and Rancheros . I am in for one each ; Ranchero + Wagon - '57 - '58 - '59 . Afterall I did feel compelled to buy the Tri-Five Nomads . Thanx .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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