sak Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 unless somebody is willing to 3d scan the originals and 3d print in mass production, these johans will never see the light of day, except originals on ebay. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 On 12/8/2020 at 9:19 PM, lordairgtar said: Maybe we could interest the Lagina Brothers into searching for the lost JoHan molds. Ha, the Curse of Oakey Spalding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hmm. I wonder if Round2 could scan the '62 and '63 Jo-Han Plymouth and Dodge bodies to get their accurate shape, and adapt them to fit their ex-Lindberg '64 Plymouth chassis? Food for thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 13 hours ago, ChrisBcritter said: Hmm. I wonder if Round2 could scan the '62 and '63 Jo-Han Plymouth and Dodge bodies to get their accurate shape, and adapt them to fit their ex-Lindberg '64 Plymouth chassis? Food for thought. with the prospect of some lawyer coming out of the woodwork, for copy right infringement? There's a reason no one succeeded in doing anything positive with the Jo-Han legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisBcritter Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) Maybe, maybe not. If Round2 had licensed permission from Chrysler to produce a '62 Plymouth, and scanned the Jo-Han body for shape and accuracy but modified it to fit their own chassis (no screw posts, separate radiator wall, new door panels/dash/seats, etc.) there wouldn't be enough left to sue about. Chrysler owns the design of the car, not the owner of the molds (which most likely no longer exist). Remember the situation when Revell came out with a 1/48 B-17F that was in part cribbed from Monogram's B-17G - Monogram grumbled about it but realized they didn't really have a case. Edited December 12, 2020 by ChrisBcritter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcarfan27 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Yeah, but don't forget about the "Great Garages" by Estes (the rocket company). They copied tools and parts from R&D Unique (IIRC), got sued and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 12:35 PM, sak said: unless somebody is willing to 3d scan the originals and 3d print in mass production, these johans will never see the light of day, except originals on ebay. Case closed. It's been mentioned by a reputable source Ernie Pettit tried to acquire some JO-HAN molds a decade ago, but was unable to do so. Why, we may never know, but the molds exist. We may even hear some news in 2021... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 I heard from a reliable source that the reuse of JoHan molds was unlikely because their tooling was so different than that of the other model companies. Anyone know about this possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, ZTony8 said: I heard from a reliable source that the reuse of JoHan molds was unlikely because their tooling was so different than that of the other model companies. Anyone know about this possibility? I remember that too. It was said that Johan tools were smaller and didn’t work in the other company’s molding machines. But remember that Okey got the 59 Ramblers and Turbine cars done! So some contract companies out there must have been able to work with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaxion Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 12:18 AM, lordairgtar said: Quote from Mr. Geiger... "Per the original flyer that Okie put out for the "New Johan", it's reasonable to think that the molds for the classics... 1935 Mercedes and 1931 Lincolns still exist." What Lincolns? Do you mean Cadillacs? Hmm . the 10931 Lincoln ?? Not in 1/25 Scale . Two Mercedes , both mid '30's . One Coupe , One Open Car .. Thanx .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, dimaxion said: Hmm . the 10931 Lincoln ?? Not in 1/25 Scale . Two Mercedes , both mid '30's . One Coupe , One Open Car .. Thanx .. I was thinking he was thinking of the Cadillacs. I love the Mercedes cars. I have about 10 of those kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBorg Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Guess it's 2020.....the zombie threads are roaming the face of the Earth again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 12:18 AM, lordairgtar said: Quote from Mr. Geiger... "Per the original flyer that Okie put out for the "New Johan", it's reasonable to think that the molds for the classics... 1935 Mercedes and 1931 Lincolns still exist." What Lincolns? Do you mean Cadillacs? 14 hours ago, lordairgtar said: I was thinking he was thinking of the Cadillacs. I love the Mercedes cars. I have about 10 of those kits. Bingo! Give an old guy a break! ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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