martinfan5 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) I wonder what the MPG is on the street is Edited October 6, 2012 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Big difference between street car & streetable car! Let' see it do 70 on the freeway for 25 miles or stop & go at 4 or 5 redlights without filing the plugs! Being hairdried with EFI, That shouldn't be a problem like it would be with blowers and/or mechanical injection or carb(s). Then if he's running E-85, the car shouldn't run hot at all when cruising and not cost to as much feed like it would on pump gas let along some form of race gas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I wonder what the MPG is on the street is Not sure if mileage would even be a concern on a beast like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Now, this car might be able to claim a "worlds fastest "street" car" in the 1/4 mile, even though I have found at least 2 other cars as fast or faster with one showing proof of being street driven (in the RAIN no less). However, here is the REAL worlds fastest street legal car. [media=] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparmagiclives Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Being hairdried with EFI, That shouldn't be a problem like it would be with blowers and/or mechanical injection or carb(s). Then if he's running E-85, the car shouldn't run hot at all when cruising and not cost to as much feed like it would on pump gas let along some form of race gas! If its set up to run on alcohol, then that pretty much proves it not a "street car" , where does one find alcohol at the pump lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvymtl Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I have seen some of Rod's older "race " cars and that is what they are race cars that can place well in a car show . Tubbs and Shucky are correct in what has been said I saw his 57 vette and i was impressed to see him drive it on the street .and in bumper to bumper traffic. And just google Drag week by Hot Rod Magazine Larry Larson and his Chevy II are awesome even google Larry his exploits are erally cool . Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) If its set up to run on alcohol, then that pretty much proves it not a "street car" , where does one find alcohol at the pump lol E-85 is available at many gas stations across the nation. Most manufacturers make flex feul vehicles that can run on it or regular gasoline, plus there's even a few that are built to run exlusively on E-85. Edited October 6, 2012 by Longbox55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Larrys car was the one I saw running in the rain. I didn't post the vid due to somewhat course language in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yes, Larry Larson's Nova is another fast "Street Car". I liked the video where he was cruising in Las Vegas city, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
signguy2108 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Joe, your right! EFI and turbo's have changed the drivability of fast street cars. I lived through the early muslce car era when 12 second street cars were fast, and if you owned an 11 second car (66 nova,RHS 327, 4 speed, 4:56 gears Friday night special), well you were the talk of the town! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparmagiclives Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 E-85 is available at many gas stations across the nation. Most manufacturers make flex feul vehicles that can run on it or regular gasoline, plus there's even a few that are built to run exlusively on E-85. E85 is ethohnol, not alcohol. Not very performance oriented. About 70% efficient as gasoline. And very corrosive to run on a vehicle not designed to run on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) E85 is ethohnol, not alcohol. Not very performance oriented. About 70% efficient as gasoline. And very corrosive to run on a vehicle not designed to run on it. Did I just read that right..........seriously? Ethanol not only is a form of alchohol, but other than gas mileage, it works quite well as a performance fuel , is less corrosive than Wood Alchohol and is consumable by humans as a "beverage" Been running the stuff in my 200 since late may and once the computer figured out how to best burn it, that Pentastar V-6 was actually more driveable in hot weather and made more power lower in the power band than it did on 87 octane pump gas and ran cooler in 90°+ temps with the A/C cranked to -11! I've also run into a couple young guys at the pumps with turbocharged Mistubishi's that were tuned to make power on it, the latter of them had an Eclipse GSX that had sounded like it had a couple healthy cams in it when he pulled up. I asked him what all had been done to it and he said that it had a "built" bottom end, bigger cams, bigger turbo, front mount intercooler, and then was planning on running around 35 pounds of boost. IIRC, he was expecting a 500+ HP..............and that's a conservative estimate! Edited October 6, 2012 by Joe Handley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 (edited) Nevermind that Nascar is using it now, and IRL has been using it for sevaral years. Properly tuned, big power can be made using ethanol. Edited October 6, 2012 by Longbox55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eizzle Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Everything I've heard pretty matches what moparmagic said, plus from what I've heard, you lose about 2-3 mpg running it. It is however, very high octane, which is why the performance guys will run it, to keep their engines from predetonating under boost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shucky Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Yep E85 is readily available at the pump especially in the midwest. Its a big hit as Joe and others have said with tuners these days as I believe it has a relative octane rating of 105 which is why so many guys running uprated turbos, etc are tuning specifically for it. No disrespect to some of the folks who posted in this thread but I'm afraid some may be a bit behind on the times when it comes to just how many miles one could drive one of these "street legal" beasts. The cars which perform in the "drag week" competition by Hot Rod Mag drive hundreds upon hundreds of miles, many of which pulling trailers, etc. in all sorts of weather conditions. It is part of the challenge. Some run on pump gas, some run E85, some run dual fuel systems which allow them to switch over for drag duty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 It is true, feul mileage will be reduced. It is also true that it can be corrosive to certain aluminum alloys. On the OEM level, as well as aftermarket parts made to run on it, there is a coating on any surfaces that may come into contact with it. Most of the horror stories out there about ethanol "ruining" feul systems from corrosion come from vehicles that sit, mainly collector vehicles and in some cases, lawn and powersports equipment. In some of those cases, it's marginal parts (rotted hoses, cheap Chinese import parts) that are effected, and ethanol is falsely blamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Joe, your right! EFI and turbo's have changed the drivability of fast street cars. I lived through the early muslce car era when 12 second street cars were fast, and if you owned an 11 second car (66 nova,RHS 327, 4 speed, 4:56 gears Friday night special), well you were the talk of the town! My Dad did too, he's even more impressed by the modern naturally asperated factory motors that put out over 1hp per cubic inch, yet are reliable enough for daily driver duties. My sister has an '06 Charger SE with the 3.5l V-6 and he was impressed by how strong it ran for having that small of an engine (it's only 217ci), especially when he thought back to the '50 Plymouth coupe with the 90hp 217ci Flathead I-6 he had as a first car........then there's that 3.6l (220ci) Pentastar V-6 in my 200, 283 horse yet can burn any pump gasoline as well as E-85! Back then, getting anywhere near that kind of power would be good for a quarter mile at a time and still not even be driveable around the pits and return lane let alone be able to drive it to work or the store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 It is true, feul mileage will be reduced. It is also true that it can be corrosive to certain aluminum alloys. On the OEM level, as well as aftermarket parts made to run on it, there is a coating on any surfaces that may come into contact with it. Most of the horror stories out there about ethanol "ruining" feul systems from corrosion come from vehicles that sit, mainly collector vehicles and in some cases, lawn and powersports equipment. In some of those cases, it's marginal parts (rotted hoses, cheap Chinese import parts) that are effected, and ethanol is falsely blamed. Fox "News" had an article on their website about the "dangers" of ethanol in gas, one woman insisted that it caused the trans to fail in her Nissan Pathfinder as well as a leaky radiator and overheating problem in the truck......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eizzle Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 There are dangers from running a high octane fuel on an engine designed for 87 octane, you can burn valves because of the higher burn temps of high octane fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparmagiclives Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 It does have a higher octane rating due to the cooler burn, but the power potential is concerdeably lower then gasoline, there for it takes about 30% more to match it 1 to 1, hence the loss in fuel mileage. The only reason it's even available is, well we won't make this political. I know it's used in race sanctions, there are even E99 cars. Ever see E100? Probly never will unless every race team wants to get a license to transport and distribute alcohol. Joe, your 200 will run on just about water, which is good because that's just about what we have here in Washington. My original point was, most "street" cars aren't built to run on alcohol, maybe av gas, bit probly not alcohol.I was just playing along with the "street legal" tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostreet Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Here's all the info on the car, and it just started as a body shell, he didn't cut up a whole vintage vette. http://www.rodsaboury.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltsr Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 If we're talking 1/4 mile, the record is actually held by a Brit, 6.592 at 220.09 in June this year. http://www.redvictor1racing.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prostreet Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 If we're talking 1/4 mile, the record is actually held by a Brit, 6.592 at 220.09 in June this year. http://www.redvictor1racing.co.uk/ Thats a very sweet car, followed his build on a web site. I like larry Larson's nova also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 That is alot of car, very cool and sharp. thanks for posting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparmagiclives Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Isn't there some guy in England with a four door falcon thats just stupid fast? And it's like the family car or something. Man I with I could find that again. Pretty interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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