unclescott58 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 What's wrong with this one? It looks great! Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philo426 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Nothing!I said it was 100 percent trouble free! The burgundy lincoln was the problem child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Very nice Phillip!! I'm really getting geared up for the half dozen new kits supposedly coming from Mobius in the next few months! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Notarangelo Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 The Revell 57 chevy with the open everything wasn't that bad of a kit body wise,the front suspension was the biggest mess of the whole kit,the next kit on this list also has to be any of the vw bugs from Revell "well at lease the older kits" example for those who haven't the pleasure there is about a 1/4 inch gap to 3/8's gap going around the firewall when you put the body on it and it really noticeable if it's the convertible, either glue the boot on if you don't make a new wall or glue the top on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Some kits are better just to rob parts out of instead of building. I am so glad I never owned a Palmer or Premier kit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Notarangelo Posted September 29, 2014 Author Share Posted September 29, 2014 this isnt so much about talent as I'm pretty sure even the best of modelers get that one kit they just say "to heck with it" and Ginsu it for parts if they want or just forget about it all together. We all have done it and it don't matter what level of talent we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 For those of you who haven't had the pleasure! Here's a Premier 1961 Falcon kit. I actually buy and collect Palmer and Premier kits because the box art is nostalgic and cool. I don't spend any real money on them, but if I see one I don't have at a show for $10, I'll grab it. Let us not confuse these with the modern kits that people on this board regularly have hissy fits over. I mean models that are 99% right and we'll have some 50 page thread about some tiny little details that 90% of modelers will never notice. Here we have the kits of no return. There's nothing you could do to this one to make a perfect replica of a Falcon. It's too tall, too narrow for starters.. Thought you may enjoy their Corvair... at least they were consistent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Some Palmer boxes... the kits are pretty much turds with multi piece bodies that sorta look like the car. Box art can be cool, some of the subjects can be unique, but remember - the parts are merely designed to rattle when you shake the box! Nothing more. Edited September 29, 2014 by Tom Geiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Funny how the box art on a lot of the lesser quality kits were pretty nice but was nothing like what you got when you opened the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Geiger Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Funny how the box art on a lot of the lesser quality kits were pretty nice but was nothing like what you got when you opened the box. And Ray, once I hit the post button, I got to thinking that these kits weren't even taken seriously back in the day. I don't think I ever remember them being mentioned in the model magazines back then. I remember these second tier models being sold in smaller places like luncheonettes, no doubt placed there by jobbers. Edited September 29, 2014 by Tom Geiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Van Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yup, the Pyro (reboxed as Lindberg) kits were pretty bad too, as you pointed out. But they were so much better than the Premier and Palmer kits as to be in an entirely different class altogether. At least Pyro kinda got the general proportions kinda right, the kits can supply a good basis for radical customs, and the Lincoln can be built into an attractive model with huge extra effort. This one was done by Jeff Sauber. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26396 It takes work....but can be done........like above..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Goschke Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 This was mentioned in the reviews section, but this has gotta be one of the worst I have ever built: Revell 1:12 scale Mustang A "chopped" top, brittle/thin a-pillars that twist on their way down from the roof to the cowl, doors that will not have convincing gaps no matter what you do (I actually secured them shut on my build and used lots of styrene and filler to get it "presentable"), a ride height suitable for off road, a flat front nose, slab-sided rear fenders with no shape to them, and just in general all proportions seem off. I swore I would never build this one again. At least Revell was kind enough to provide a gigantic photo of the model on the box cover so that anyone who's ever seen a Mustang fastback can plainly see how awful that kit is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Speaking of Palmer. Her is their take on the AC Cobra. A Cobra, really ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Interesting, we've seen 3 Pyro/Lindberg Lincoln Continentals in this thread. And all 3 look pretty good. The front ends look weak and soft. And were the top meets the windshield needs work. But beyond that I'm surprised how good they look. Still I'm not going to run and buy one. My skill level is not that good. I am tempted to go after the Pyro/Lindberg Cord 812 though. I know it's really no better than their Lincoln. But, I love 810/812 Cords, and own most models put out of them over the years. Including the Revell Highway Pioneer 1/32nd scale Cord 810 from the 1950's. Which surprisingly isn't too bad of a kit. Scott Edited September 29, 2014 by unclescott58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan White Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I'm working on the rerelease of the opening-everything Revell '57 Bel Air and it definitely is a bit of a challenge to build. Plenty of flash, poorly molded in some spots, two-piece parts not quite lining up, finicky to assemble, along with gaps aplenty. Its not a horrible kit though, and at least now comes with one piece tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The AMT '57 Chrysler 300( pre painted version).That thing fought me at every step.Nothing fit and I never could get the front suspension together.It's still sitting,partially built,waiting to be a parts kit. p.s.-I don't think I've seen one of these where the front suspension didn't look like it had excess negative camber and loose front wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philo426 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I made a V-12 out of 2 flathead V-8s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunkypeanutbutter Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Wouldn't that be a V16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Wouldn't that be a V16? Maybe he didn't use all of one engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 One of my very first model cars was a Palmer 1966 "Mustang GTO." I bought it because it was 99 cents and the AMT Mustang I really wanted was $1.49. Fifty cents was a lot of money to a 12 year old in 1966. The Palmer Mustang was horrible. 4-piece body which didn't look like a Mustang when assembled, one sprue of chromed generic "customizing" parts, and the whole mess was undersized to boot. It was THE LAST Palmer model I ever bought, having learned my lesson about price and value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalbert Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Blech! Maybe that 56 Ford ain't such a bad kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philo426 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yes I made sure there were only 12 spark plugs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonye66 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I absolutely detest the current Revell original Mini Cooper. What a pile. The parts themselves were cleanly cast with little flashing, but when anything is mounted in its designated position, nothing seems to want to align properly. Tossed it back in the box and back on the shelf. What really stinks is that its got one of my best paint jobs on it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The AMT '57 Chrysler 300( pre painted version).That thing fought me at every step.Nothing fit and I never could get the front suspension together.It's still sitting,partially built,waiting to be a parts kit.p.s.-I don't think I've seen one of these where the front suspension didn't look like it had excess negative camber and loose front wheels. Another one I had no troubles with at all. Found it to be a very easy kit to build. And it turned out great. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 ... but remember - the parts are merely designed to rattle when you shake the box! Nothing more. Ah yes, and today, so many modelers expect the parts to self-assemble when you shake the box... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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