Ace-Garageguy Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Okay, I know the latest version of the 1/4 scale visible V8 doesn't have the light-up plugs or electric motor like the Renwal edition did, but does anyone know if the tooling is the same as the Renwal original, or is it entirely different ? What I've found so far seems to imply the Revell version from 1975 and later is the Renwal tooling with some things deleted. Anyone know for sure ?? Anyone know if the distributor drive gears are still in the kit ? The neighbor's grandson is going to vo-tech for 'aotomotive-technician' and they haven't taught the class basic internal combustion operation yet, which I thought was pretty strange. One of these engines should be required for the course. Edited February 21, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 http://ia600501.us.archive.org/13/items/Revell_Visible_V8/RevellVisibleV8.pdf Haven't bothered with the hand-crank version, but I can tell you the Revell kit from '75 had all the Renwal features, and it stayed that way up till Revell dumbed it down. Judging from pics and the assembly manual posted on line, I am just about positive that it is the Renwal kit bereft of the electrical features. I was pretty surprised to see from the instructions, though, that the distributor drive isn't acknowledged. I'd have guessed it'd be cheaper to leave the parts on the trees even if they aren't delivering actual current, but I can't verify that for you. The Testors 1:4 Hemi also delivers pretty much everything the Revell kit now demonstrates, and it's motorized, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvymtl Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I was bummed out that it wasn't motorized . wanted to recreate my childhood experiment of the effects of more power to the little electric motor. 8 D-cell batteries connected to the motor broke more plastic Yes blew up my first engine at ten years old. A plastic one but still and engine Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 You just made me bray like a jackass laughing! I did that too! Was a bit more careful with the second one, offered a show 'n tell in high school driver's ed and they accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbox55 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 The distributor drive gears, shaft, and the rotor are not present in the recent issue. The starter drive and the original trand hosing are also not present, replcaced with the hand crank parts. Otherwise, the balance of the parts appear to be the same as the older issue, and the parts should interchange. That's what I have in mind for mine. I had one when I was a kid, and like Micheal, I managed to blow mine up, too. I still have it, and plan to scavenge the needed parts to swap in to the newer issue kit, with the exeption of using leds for the "spark plugs" instead of the little red incandecent lamps that came with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel-Dan Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) I built one of the older Revell issues. I need to replace the rocker push rods because they keep falling into the block. I have 2 more parts kits I can combine to build another. I too do not like the hand crank on the last issues. That one I built was a complete unstarted I found at a yard sale 6-7 years ago for $5.oo!!!! That 3 foot long box comes in handy for storing the 3 1/32 scale Fire trucks I have been working one!! Edited February 22, 2013 by Edsel-Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Thanks for all the feedback. Guess I'll have to either spring for an early one or make up a gearset, shaft, rotor and modify the cap to get working plug-lights. Sounds like finding an early light-up issue would be easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk11 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Speaking of Renwall engine kits, my high school auto shop teacher had one of their slant six models sitting in pieces on his bookshelf. I offered to put it back together for him and he let me. Now, thirty-odd years later I'm wishing I'd asked him for it after seeing what guys are paying for them now. And how many of you guys have seen the giant chassis kit that fits around the visible v8 or seen what kind of price guys are getting for them? mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 i am impressed you guys got them to actually run with that electric motor. i built one when i was a kid, actually built it then rebuilt it a couple years later and i never COULD get it smooth enough inside to actually turn over before something went cockeyed and jammed up. i remember how disappointed i was the first time i built it and i had been building models for a couple years by that point. then i tore it all back apart and tried to tighen things up but i was pretty young and brass tubing was pretty intimidating so it didnt work any better the second time around. i think ultimately I or some "we" poured glue on it and lit it on fire. that showed it who was boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpiguy Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have a mint electric motored one in my closet at my parents house. My Dad and I built it many years ago. It worked perfect at the time. I'll have to go dig out this weekend and put batteries in it and see what happens. I have the Testors Hemi as well, never built it, still in the box. Can those still be found reasonably priced? I'd like to get another one to actually build and keep the other one NIB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpiguy Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have the Testors Hemi as well, never built it, still in the box. Can those still be found reasonably priced? I'd like to get another one to actually build and keep the other one NIB. Checked Ebay myself and answered my question. Crazy prices on those now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Good stuff here : http://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/models/visible-engines.htm I started out with this kit ,Thanks Dad http://www.tsrfcars.com/toys-european-other.htm Looks to be a Model B Ford with the fuel pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I wish Revell would restore the old Renwall Visible V-8 back to its former glory. Back with the electric motor and lighting spark plugs. There are a lot of us out there with fond memories of the kit in that form. Revell ruined it by simplifying it. By the way, several of us in the Model Car Club of Minnesota (MCCM) ageed that the old Renwall V-8 most closely reassembled the old real full-size Studebaker V-8. Everything but location of the generator matches the look of the 1951 Studebaker designed V-8. Curious if others out there agree. R. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) Studebaker V-8 Interesting observation. Reading various threads about this kit you run across all sorts of people thinking it's a Chevy. Next up are the V-8s in the Lindberg 1/8th scale 2 in 1 dragster kit, "Exterminator" Also often mislabeled as Chevrolet. Edited March 24, 2014 by Greg Myers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I have heard and read about the Studebaker reference before also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Deuce Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I wish Revell would restore the old Renwall Visible V-8 back to its former glory. Back with the electric motor and lighting spark plugs. There are a lot of us out there with fond memories of the kit in that form. Revell ruined it by simplifying it. By the way, several of us in the Model Car Club of Minnesota (MCCM) ageed that the old Renwall V-8 most closely reassembled the old real full-size Studebaker V-8. Everything but location of the generator matches the look of the 1951 Studebaker designed V-8. Curious if others out there agree. R. Scott I agree it seems most similar to the old Stude v-8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordairgtar Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm thinking the Revell engine is generic. Didn't they intend for it to go in the Visible Chassis? I don't know if they are the same scale, but that is what someone told me. I think the chassis was designed from Buick prints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLMFAA1 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Of coourse there are extremeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDI6fvk3CtU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 I'm thinking the Revell engine is generic. Didn't they intend for it to go in the Visible Chassis? I don't know if they are the same scale, but that is what someone told me. I think the chassis was designed from Buick prints. The Renwal Visible V8 chassis is definetly not Buick. It's been a long time since I've last seen the Visible V8 chassis, and I've never owned one. But, from what I remember that chassis had leaf springs in the rear. Starting in 1938, until Buick introduced their Nova clone the Apollo in the spring of '73, all Buicks had coil springs in the rear. For that reason alone it can't be Buick. The Renwal chassis may be based on Studebaker also. The "X" frame set up looks similar to what's found on both the Lark convertibles and the Avantis. The leaf springs would match Studebaker's set up also. From having the original Renwal Visible V8 engine, I'm sure that other than the location of the generator, it's based on the Studebaker V8. I'd need to see the Renwal chassis in real life to see what how it compears to Studebaker's or others chassis. Scott Aho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted April 12, 2014 Share Posted April 12, 2014 Sorry to say, I need to amend my latest posting here. Right away looking at photos of Renwal's Visible chassis I made one big mistake in my above comments. The Renwal chassis has no "X" member to the frame. Shows how poorly ones memory can can be. A quick look at photos, I can not tell what the chassis is based on. But, my memory of the leaf springs are correct. So it is not Buick. Scott Aho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Myers Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Of coourse there are extremeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDI6fvk3CtU Now that's what I'm talkin' bout ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidm750 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I sell parts for either the Renwal or the Revell Visible V-8 engine on Ebay. I have replacement motors (both types) replacement light bulbs (not LED) and hardware sets currently listed. I also have many of the plastic parts, but not all.I do not have many of the electrical parts left. My Ebay handle is the same (davidm750) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Haigwood Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 When did it originally come out. II vaguely remember having the kit back around the earl 60's.I don't remember finishing it but I do remember sticking the wires for the spark plug lights into a electrical socket and wacthing them explode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 (edited) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Haynes-Build-Your-Own-V8-Model-Combustion-Engine-/271990828257 Guys, go with the times. The bumpy sticks are now whirring around in the cylinder heads and are driven by rubber bands.Comes with all the electrickery, so we can blow it up like we did whilomly with our Renwals that long time ago when even we were young. Oh, and Scotty Kilmer didn't get it to run, haha. Edited November 11, 2015 by Junkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel-Dan Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I wonder if anyone imports that Haynes kitFairly expensive though.Approximately $52.oo US with shipping almost the same!! Wal-Mart has a "Smithsonian" kit of an inline 4 Cylinder engine only $20.oo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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