PowerPlant Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Which car is this? I googled, but could not find a pic of a real car that looks anything like the box art model... I am now confused... I'm no expert on Ferraris, but according to online sources, a 250 GT Berlinetta looks totally different! Which car is this a kit of??? Thanks MATIJA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuzzed Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Looks like a 250 GTO, but I'm not an expert... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZTony8 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) It's supposed to be a 250 GTO.It looks as mis-shapen as the old Aurora mold(which it may be-it certainly looks like the Aurora version).If I'm recalling correctly that kit was originally supposed to be a 250 SWB Berlinetta and was changed late in the development process.That partly explains why the nose is the wrong shape. Edited March 7, 2014 by ZTony8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerPlant Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Thanks for the answers And, yes, I realize it looks like a 250 GTO, but not quite... So, basically, this kit is a blunder of some sort? Any value? Edited March 7, 2014 by PowerPlant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Goschke Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 It IS the old Aurora kit. Aurora also did a Jag XKE coupe, Maserati 2500GT, Aston Martin DB4, and Avanti in the same series. The best thing about the Ferrari kit are the wire wheels. Put a two-ear knock off on them and they look passably like '53 Buick Skylark wheels. Toss the rest of the kit in the parts box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Goschke Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thanks for the answers And, yes, I realize it looks like a 250 GTO, but not quite... So, basically, this kit is a blunder of some sort? Any value? Yeah, basically, it's a blunder. With care it can be built into a nice model of a non-existent car. The original Aurora kit has some collector value for the outstanding box art, by Mort Kuntsler, I think. Monogram versions virtually none. While they were all great, the Jag may have had the best box art in series... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) It IS the old Aurora kit. ... Toss the rest of the kit in the parts box. Or build something really weird, where accurate body lines don't count too much... Or maybe hack and bash it into a Devin... Edited March 7, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) It IS the old Aurora kit. Aurora also did a Jag XKE coupe, Maserati 2500GT, Aston Martin DB4, and Avanti in the same series. The best thing about the Ferrari kit are the wire wheels. Put a two-ear knock off on them and they look passably like '53 Buick Skylark wheels. Toss the rest of the kit in the parts box. The story I have heard multiple times is that Aurora was originally planning a 250 GT and when the GTO arrived (the real one, not Pontiac's ) they converted the body. One thing it had going for it was opening everything. The engine is a reasonable example, in styrene, of the Colombo V12 and the chassis is not bad either. Edited March 7, 2014 by Exotics_Builder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbwelda Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 that aurora Ferrari box art belongs in the thread about which sort of box art do you prefer; here it would fall into the totally deceptive category when you eyeball the contents and that misshaped body. talk about your royal letdown. 1 more vote for actual built model on the cover! jb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 The greenhouse section totally looks like a 250 GT SWB. Someone should convert one back to that which was intended in the first place! That would a unique conversion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdonm Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Don't know why everyone says this body didn't exist. It sure looks like Ferrari GTO #3223GT , which had several nose configurations, to me. It was built in '61 and raced extensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydar Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If not out of line to ask here, I would be interested in everyone's opinion on which is the most accurate 1/24 250. Thanks, joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If not out of line to ask here, I would be interested in everyone's opinion on which is the most accurate 1/24 250. Thanks, joe. In my opinion only, either the Fujimi or Italeri 250 GTO's are the best. Remember that each of the 36 cars were hand built and there were differences. The Protar (now offered by Revell of Germany) is good except that the rear end is too squared off, and the upper door frames too thick, and (if Revell keep the Protar versions) undersized wheel/tires. I excluded the Model Factory Hiro kit due to cost and the old Gunze kit due to rarity and it having some problems as well. I have all the 250 GTO that were interesting to me, so I can compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Don't know why everyone says is this body didn't exist. It sure looks like Ferrari GTO #3223GT , which had several nose configurations, to me. It was built in '61 and raced extensively. I don't think it's so much "this body didn't exist" as it is that there are several significant proportion and line inaccuracies that rankle. First thing that jumps out at me is the height and shape of the headlight openings, and the profiles of the tops of the front fenders. But, these cars were individually bodied (as noted directly above), raced, and potentially damaged. Differences between cars in the same Ferrari "model' and number often creep in as a result of racing damage / repair / modification...as you imply. I personally think some of the 1:1 250 GTO Ferraris are much more attractive than others, due entirely to subtle differences in bodywork. Edited March 8, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not going to comment simply provide photos and let you decide for yourself. Aurora/Monogram 1/25 scale Italeri/Testors 1/24 scale Gunze 1/24 scale Fujimi 1/24 scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I'm not going to comment simply provide photos and let you decide for yourself. Now THAT sir, is one GREAT reference post !! Thank you !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 AFX's pics clearly show how tall the Aurora version is. I always thought the Gunze was best but the Fujimi is quite nice. There certainly are a lot of 250 GTO kits out there! Yet no one will kit my favourite Bugatti T57SC Atlantic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerPlant Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 Thank you, everyone! Some very useful replies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 All things considered, bear in mind that every original 250GTO had bodywork hand-hammered out over wooden forms, and no two are exactly alike, so exact comparisons between any model of one and the real thing, if not exactly the same car, can be VERY subjective. That said, the old Aurora kit, while very nice for the era in which it was designed and tooled, was pretty nice--but the "art" and the "science" (engineering if you will) of model car kits has definitely advanced a good ways beyond where both were in 1963, when Aurora was working up this kit. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I don't think it's so much "this body didn't exist" as it is that there are several significant proportion and line inaccuracies that rankle. First thing that jumps out at me is the height and shape of the headlight openings, and the profiles of the tops of the front fenders. But, these cars were individually bodied (as noted directly above), raced, and potentially damaged. Differences between cars in the same Ferrari "model' and number often creep in as a result of racing damage / repair / modification...as you imply. I personally think some of the 1:1 250 GTO Ferraris are much more attractive than others, due entirely to subtle differences in bodywork. Bill, to corroborate, I've read that where the 60's 250GTO is concerned, NO body panels were the same, car-to-car, simply due to the fact that every body panel was hand-hammered out, many of them on little more than tree stumps and lead shot bags. Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 We all have to bear in mind that even though Ferrari only built 39 GTOs, there must be at least 90 of them out there now due to replication. Some of the fakes are a little shaky but some are quite good. Even though they were handmade bodies the variation is not as great as the different renditions of kits would suggest. The greatest variation was usually the result of accident repairs. Most of these series built hand made bodies were made to match wooden bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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