Austin T Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) While I was removing the Tamiya tape off of my Hudson tonight I noticed that the tape (I think) did this Nasty mess to my paint job.Both paints are Taiya acrylic colors and the black has a dupli-color clear on it.The black is just fine,it is one of my best black paint jobs,but the white is terrible.Is there any other way then a bath in LAs to save it?I have a show in two weeks and the only thing left on this model is the Paint of course.PLEASE any tips are welcome. Edited October 23, 2012 by Austin T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I use and recommend Tamiya Tape. It is the best easy release tape I've ever used and always leaves a clean line. Exactly what did you do? Method, paint type. Did you apply heat? Are all those spots in the White from where you had Tamiya tape? I kind of think your paint was not fully cured when you applied your tape. CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think I may have left it on there too long? I was on there for about 5 days.The white was painted over a white dupicolor primer.Two coats of thinned Tamiya paint and then taped off four days later.After a weeks worth of work on the black I removed the tape tonight.Tape was applied in regular conditions without heat.I did spary a light coat of Clear to try and prevent bleeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas SCR Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 What kind of tape did you use? It more looks like your white was not dry enuff before you put the tape on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I think I may have left it on there too long? I was on there for about 5 days. That won't matter with Tamiya Tape, if your paint was dry. The white was painted over a white dupicolor primer.Two coats of thinned Tamiya paint Thinned with what?? and then taped off four days later.After a weeks worth of work on the black I removed the tape tonight.Tape was applied in regular conditions without heat. I did spary a light coat of Clear to try and prevent bleeding. ????????????? Clear to prevent bleeding ?????????? CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Joseph Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Austin, when you sprayed your clear over the taped edge (Pat, it's to seal the edge of the tape and is usually either clear paint or the same paint that's under the tape), did you use the Duplicolor clear from a rattle can? It looks to me like your "light coat" may have soaked into the paper Tamiya tape and attacked the acrylic underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 It looks to me like your "light coat" may have soaked into the paper Tamiya tape and attacked the acrylic underneath. Took the words right outta my mouse, Joseph. That tape is great stuff, and I recommend it above all others, but it's quite delicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Austin, when you sprayed your clear over the taped edge (Pat, it's to seal the edge of the tape and is usually either clear paint or the same paint that's under the tape), Joe, that is a completely unnecessary step. Seal the tape? Certainly not with a full blown Clear!!!!!! Tamiya is not absorbent. Intercoat Clear is used for in between layers of paint if someone is worried about the tape pulling up paint, or in some cases when using Candies. 14 years of AirBrushing multilayered paintjobs and I have never needed to spray on extra Clear layers, in between layers of colorcoats, especially when using Tamiya tape. As Dave agreed, Tamiya is the best Modeling tape available, so adding in possible corruptive agents is unnecessary. If your Body Prep and Primer is correct, if you mix paints correctly and if you DON'T use a variety of different types paints in your project, then you won't have problems. And, you certainly won't need to spray on Clears in an effort to enhance the abilities of Tamiya Tape. Tamiya has the straightest, cleanest edge of anything. But, You guys do what you want to, Tamiya Tape, used for several layers of painting, no need for extra Clears, using only one brand of paint, House Of Kolor. But you can do the same thing using Tamiya Tape and cheap quality aerosols, if you stick within a system. I've never seen an instance where I thought Tamiya was too delicate to use. I buy it 30 rolls at a time from Hobby:Linc. CadillacPat Edited October 23, 2012 by CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VW Dave Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Tamiya 18mm tape, Tamiya paint, and no clear until after I applied the decals...big shocker - Tamiya clear too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadillacPat Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Simple and easy and nice clean lines, Good job Dave, Sticking with a system always works, CadillacPat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 I used Tamiya thinner and nothing else to thin Tamiya paints.I have found that the 2:1 ratio works best.The reason I applied clear is I didn't want to risk a bleedthrough As I did with this model Im assuming that the clear and tape mixing was my problem.Next time I wouln't do that.Now is there a way to fix my white without striping the black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Joseph Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Im assuming that the clear and tape mixing was my problem.Next time I wouln't do that.Now is there a way to fix my white without striping the black? You can try sanding out the rough areas to level them out, then re-spray the white over those areas. Just mask over your black so that you don't get overspray. Even if you do get white overspray on your black, you should be able to remove it without harming the Duplicolor clear-- that stuff is very tough. Like the examples that Pat and Dave showed, it's always best to stick with a single paint system than to mix & match different paint chemistry. Tamiya has model painting down to a science, so using their stuff according to their directions will leave little room for weird problems. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Personally, I'd strip it and do it again. I've rarely had any luck trying to 'fix' a problem without just doing it over, right. And Pat, Dave and Joseph have given you excellent advice: stick with materials within a system, and follow the instructions carefully. Unless you have a LOT of experience from experimentation, or a LOT of time to do things over again, it's the best way to avoid paint problems on models OR 1:1 cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Ok thanks guys for the advise.I'm pretty sure I can tape off the black and redo the white.Now what is the gassout time for duplicolor clear so I don't make this worse then it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin T Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Ok here she is as of today. I sanded everything white down and then re sprayed.After it was dry I applied the decals.Thanks again everyone for your help,I don't know what would have happened without your alls help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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