LOBBS Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) I found a caster that may be interested in producing this setup for me. To do a fairly convincing version of a crate motor for a pro-touring project you really need the block/tranny from the Revell '02 Camaro/'98 Firebird combined with the front cover+pulleys/belts+heads+intake+beauty covers from the C6 Z06 Vette and a modified oil pan and filter from the Silverado. I built this crate motor for a '69 Nova project of mine and with the exception of the beauty covers being from a C5 Z06 instead of the C6 Z06 is largely what I'm looking at having done. I've picked up a bunch of the Revell '02 SS Camaros over the years to steal the LSx motor and/or T-56 tranny from and otherwise have found little use for the rest of the kit. On top of that, you really need at least some pieces from those other two sources to flesh it out properly. I'm posting this up here to gauge the interest in such a setup. Obviously, if we can show the caster that there is a market for it the more likely it is to actually happen. Edited July 27, 2013 by LOBBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Very nicely done. Yes, I'd be interested in some. Are YOU casting them, or someone else? They DO look VERY nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Very nicely done. Yes, I'd be interested in some. Are YOU casting them, or someone else? They DO look VERY nice. I did a fair amount of research on the GM 1:1 crate setup when I put together the motor for my Nova. I've got the parts to do another master that's identical with the exception that I'll include the newer C6 beauty covers. Someone else would be doing the casting. Edited May 19, 2013 by LOBBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outragis Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 interest here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahmaljasson Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'm interested! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57lover Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKcustoms Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'm definitely interested in a few of these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PARTSMARTY Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 OF COURSE I'M INTERESTED-LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole53 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'm in, put me down for a couple, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Pol Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I would also be interested init would be nice for a street rod to. John Pol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadhawg Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 I'd go for at least a couple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijsgrit Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Like it & want some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just a quick update. All the parts are gathered up and when I get home from work tonight I have to get some pics sent off to the caster so he can give me an estimate. I'm loving the excitement being shown here as I think this is a long overdue offering to have out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Though (and because) I haven't built anything LS front-engined, front-gearbox, rear wheel drive for exactly the reasons you pointed out (as far as having to source bits from several kits to 'get-it-right') I think having a drop-in package like you propose would be terrific. I think it would be nice if the gearbox was cast separately from the engine, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Though (and because) I haven't built anything LS front-engined, front-gearbox, rear wheel drive for exactly the reasons you pointed out (as far as having to source bits from several kits to 'get-it-right') I think having a drop-in package like you propose would be terrific. I think it would be nice if the gearbox was cast separately from the engine, too. I do also have plans to do just the 6-speed T-56 tranny as a stand alone item as well. Using the bellhousing from the '02 Camaro is reasonably correct to use behind a traditional SBC or BBC. The master for it will be sent along with the full crate motor. The tranny could also be used to correct the fact that Revell used an automatic in their '10 Camaro SS kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 Just for fun here is the T-56 6-speed behind the EFI'd Hilborn BBC in my Revell '69 pro-touring Vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) What's the box on the left? A Muncie or a Borg Warner T10? I'd say Muncie from the center bolt-boss for the side cover on the left side. Edited May 20, 2013 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 20, 2013 Author Share Posted May 20, 2013 What's the box on the left? A Muncie or a Borg Warner T10? I'd say Muncie from the center bolt-boss for the side cover on the left side. It's the stock setup from the Revell '69 Corvette BBC so it should be an M-22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 (edited) Fresh off the trees. Ready to be cleaned up and a few things slightly modified to make the crate motor. The recipe: Engine and tranny from a Revell '02 Camaro SS Heads and intake from a C5 Vette-really doesn't matter the tooling is the same in the '02 Camaro SS, C5 and C6 Vettes. Front engine cover/accessories/throttle body, belts/pulleys/accessories, starter, oil filler cap and beauty covers from the C6 Z06 Corvette Oil pan and filter from the Revell Silverado-only kit in this line of tooling with a behind the crossmember sump that is more correct for older vehicles. Edited May 21, 2013 by LOBBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Zimmerman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Definately interested here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taxdude Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Very interesting, any idea of a price point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Very interesting, any idea of a price point? I just sent pictures off to Manny and I'll let you guys know as soon as we work that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I think we're far enough along now to reveal the caster who will be handling this. Manny at VCG has given me an early quote of $15. Given the quality of his work, the layout of some of the pieces and the freedom to no longer have to raid a minimum of 3 kits to pull this off I believe that it is a fair price. It certainly is in line with his other engine kits of similar complexity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadhawg Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Yeah, that's not bad at all. When will they be ready? I have a current project begging for one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOBBS Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm planning to get the master out this weekend. Then it's just a matter of how quickly he can get the molds made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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