440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Hi. Im. Building a 86 Monte Carlo Stock Eliminator race car. Does anybody know a good websites that have pics, info etc of that exact car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 What kind of pictures you need? Pics of '86 Monte Carlos in general or pics of some specific Monte Carlo Stocker or pics of something else? Here are some pictures of Factory Stock Monte Carlo: http://www.carsforsale.com/used_cars_for_sale/1986_chevrolet_monte+carlo_211902294_6 What engine you'll be using? This will be an interesting project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Pics from 86 Chevy Monte Carlo Stock Eliminator race car. From engine, interior and chassis. Also tech specs could be usefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Interesting indeed! Pictures of Stock Eliminator cars are not easy to find on the internet. I used the NHRA rulebook when I built my '69 Nova. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Engine is going to be stock 350 from the kit. Dont know yet is it gonna TPI or carb version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Sorry that engine is 305 not 350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Are you going to build a Modern Day Stocker or an older version? And when Chevy Small Blocks look the same, it doesn't matter what SBC the pictures are from. If you're building a modern day Stocker, I can take engine detail pics of our Chevelle for you. Will your Monte Carlo be a SS or just the regular "Base Model"? And when you decide what engine and transmission you'll be using (Automatic or Manual), I can tell you the class that the car runs in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Its going to be SBC with automatic. Modern day stocker. SS. Pics wuold be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320wayne Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 You might be hard pressed to find what you are looking for. I did an extensive search online and throughout my own research archives and could find almost nothing for this subject matter. Ironically what I did find is that during this time period it appears that the preferred GM based stock/super stock body style used was the 86/87 Olds., which there is tons of data to find for this body style. Good luck in your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yeah. I know its going be hard to find pictures to this one. Hopefully fellow modeller Niko promised to post engine pictures of their 74 Small Block Chevelle Stocker. Those are going to be very usefull to this project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Super Stock rules require that the engine be factory original same year as body with the exception of accepted heads, manifold and carb. The carb must match the original stock one. NHRA has an Engine Blueprint page for each car eligible for Stock or Super Stock competition, I can find the Monte Carlo for you if you want. Super Stock GT allows you to use any engine ever built as long as it's from the same maker as the body. You could put a new LS out of a Corvette in that Monte Carlo in SS/GT. Someone did that with a '55. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Yep, I'll take some detail pics tomorrow of our Chevelle. I like building these Stockers as scale models. They are a lot simpler than Pro Mods or other Doorslammers, but still these need some extra work, and some of those things are something that everyone can't see, but it's nice to know that "I did it right". But when moving to Super Stock, the cars need a lot more modifications. Super Stockers are very cool, though, especially the fast SS/GT cars that Dale mentioned. I've seen Harri Hassinen's SS/BM Chevy Camaro when it was in progress and of course running in the strip as well, and those SS/GT cars are really a lot more complicated than regular Super Stockers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TPGWbw5mS8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Stock and all iterations of Super Stock require full dash and interior including floor covering and matching front seats. The back seat many be deleted if the rear roll bar supports interfere with it. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 To build the 86 Monte Stocker, build it straight from the kit, add headers, a driveshaft loop within 18" scale inches from the trans tail shaft, a pair of 9"x30" slicks. Do NOT use the TPI included with the kit but the Q-Jet carb. You can scratch build an electric water pump, a 6 or 8 point cage and there you have it. If you felt ambitious, you could also scratch a deep sump trans pan ..... Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 9, 2014 Author Share Posted February 9, 2014 What tires are perfect for a scale Stock Eliminator drag cars? I was planning to use late-model NASCAR slicks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Nope, those are too wide .... Use the 9"x30" that came in the Lindberg 64 Dodge kits, I like the AMT 2 pc. black plastic ones that came in the Old Pro 72 Nova, 58 Impala, just to name a couple ...... here is a pic of them on my stocker Olds Edited February 9, 2014 by Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 (edited) Here are the Lindberg 9"x30"s on my 77 Ventura Stocker Edited February 9, 2014 by Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Here are a couple pics of mine of a Malibu Stocker ........ Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 OK. Thanks for the information and pics Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Some clean Stock and Super Stocks from the Northwest Nationals last Summer. Amazing what goes away when you don't have to pass emissions. Dale Edited February 10, 2014 by ScaleDale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440 Magnum Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 In what material you guys have build headers? Aluminum tube? Styrene rod? Or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 For headers I've used solder, and it works fine. I'll try to scratchbuild ones for Grumpy's Toy Nova from plastic tube, but I don't know if I'm going to make it or not... Today I was taking a couple of pictures. It's highly possible that I've forgot to take pics of some parts, but here is something. Electric water pump. The second pic shows how lower water hose connects on it. Ignition Coil. I have never seen these in 1/25 scale. I've only seen Accel coils, that I think are older versions than this one. With the electric water pump, the Alternator Belt is really simple: Wilwood Brake Master Cylinder with Line Lock setup. A Close up shot of the Line Lock. And here is the Line Lock Button on the shifter (The red one). The gas tank is mostly in the trunk, but a part of it comes through the floor. The next part is Allstar Performance Fuel Filter, and then there is Holley Fuel Pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 And the little part that is in the picture above, is Fuel Pressure Regulator. This Brake Balance Adjuster is installed on rear tires' brake line. Then there is the driveshaft loop. There is a picture of the whole engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks, Niko. Now I know how to plumb my line lock and Holley blue fuel pump when I get to that point in my 1:1 SSGT Mustang What brand water pump is that? I need the shortest one I can find to clear the oversized radiator and electric fan I have. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-409 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I'm glad these pictures did help. The water pump is made by Proform. I don't know if that's the smallest one, but it is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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