Ognib Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) Ray, why not add the body line feature to the buck after it is initially shaped, it would be a lot easier to add it rather than try and sculpt it in to the buck, you could use brass or even wood, then tack it or screw it on possibly, then work the fastener heads last. just a thought Thanks, Bill. One of the best things about doing this...figguring out the most effective way to get it done. Educating myself...trial & error...the scientific method. It's like...how ya gonna know what to do, unless you know what to do. Edited May 15, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 Yesterdays results. You'll notice, that by the 3rd point, the profile is beginning to flatten out across the top, as it transitions down towards the running board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) A lot of fabrication going on this page. Thousands of man hours invested in this build. You'll notice that their bucks are not solid. this particular shop has every example of state of the art shaping equipment. They don't use the bucks as forming fixtures, rather only as a template to fit the panel to, as it's formed on the machinery. A far different approach to shaping, than hand hammering into hollows for shrinking, working over shaping post & hammering directly on the buck. But fascinating to see, none the less. Some most excellent work happening here! http://www.realsteel.com/projects/aluminum-double-dozen/?album=17&gallery=72#gallery Edited May 16, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comp1839 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 ray, i know of at 2 aluminum '41 willys coupes that were hand formed. one in europe and one here in the u.s.. i'd bet a quick search would yeild some more aluminum forming articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Thanks, Dave. Found it. Number 1 of a series of several vids on this project. Catch you all later, off to work. Best to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan_m Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 those guys are doin some gret metalwork! one of those cars has to crazy expensive....... cheers bryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Bryan, yes great work. Here's one that Marcelle did on a Chip Foose design. Open the photo album for the car...the entire build is there. Marcelle is one of the very elite fabricators out there. Observe how perfectly the hood sides flow through the doors on to the quarter panels. Fantastic work! http://www.chipfoose.com/ws_display.asp?filter=Shockwave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) I'm still saving up my lunch money for a tig unit. Continuing my research as to what's out there for a unit, that I can justify the cost, for a strictly hobby shop application. I did check out a 110 volt Miller unit at a local supply store & it's well over $1,000...can't hack that cost for what I'm doing. At this point the unit sold by Eastwood, that I linked to on page 1 or 2 of this thread, still seems to be offering the most bang for the buck, while offering the features I want for aluminum work. Here's a vid of a guy welding aluminum coke cans. Haven't measured the thickness of a coke can, but it's quite a bit thinner than the 1/16" material on the frame or the .016 that I'll be using for body skins. Edited May 18, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 The top of the fender is in such constant change of shape as it moves, I added a few more lines to my grid to more closely monitor the shape as it's transferred to the bucks. Laid out a center line, making sure the fender will fit in the area of the buck & marked the references for the grid lines. All of my cross templates are drawn but not cut & fitted yet. Anticipating beginning to shape the buck, because I'm really wanting to start bending some metal & getting a feel for how this is all going to come around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagedragfan Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 looks like you got the profile figured out Ray, so far so good, keep cuttin and sandin buddy, looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 24, 2013 Author Share Posted May 24, 2013 Thanks, Bill. Just moving slow in the beginning...make sure I think it all through so I can realize a viable result at the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) Met a guy recently who shared some pics of a 1:8 34 buck he did. I asked him & he said it would be ok if I shared them here. Very cool! Edited May 27, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 26, 2013 Author Share Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) A few more. Most impressive work. Very inspiring for me! Edited May 26, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrichard Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 whow !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted May 27, 2013 Author Share Posted May 27, 2013 Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Fitting cross templates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 Great Progress Ray! Real Nice Work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Thanks, Ira, I appreciate that. Tonights the monthly kc slammers meeting, so think I'll cruise on up & hang with them for a couple of hours. Taking a couple of things for the show & tell portion of the evening. Should be a good time. Edited June 4, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Perhaps a little premature, but I'm thinking about the flathead engine for this. With the pains I'm taking to make the frame & body "spot on", I know myself well enough to admit to myself that I'm going to have to go max effort on it. After viewing the engines of a couple of builders on this site & elsewhere, I have no choice but to begin to plan for a lathe & mill for my shop & an education so that I can effectively & intellegently use them. ...stuff like how to produce a perfect 1:8 scale stromberg 97 or rather 3 of them, etc. Edited June 4, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Last night at the club meeting, the same guy who sold me my kit I"m using for reference, brought this & told me to take it for taking templates. Sooo, I may be back to building a coupe...very nice detail around the windows, etc. Thanks, Eric, very cool of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngtiger1 Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Just saw this thread for the first time and all I can say is a big WOW. Pure mad skills at work here. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Thanks, Mike. You may be right about the mad part. My wife seems to think so as well. Bill Davis turned me on to this page. Videos of seminars at GSL from several different years. http://www.gslchampionship.org/Library/library.html Since I'm scratch building in a large scale, this one is of particular interest to me. He deals with conceptualizing, planning, initating & following through on a scratch built project. It was encouraging to me to realize that my thought process has been similar to the way he approaches things. http://archive.org/details/scratchbuildingInLargeScaleByDaveCummins Edited June 6, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) This represents what I want on this build for wheels/tires. Want to build them out of metal to follow through with the materials used on the rest of the project. I've searched every modeling forum I can find & google for info on scale wires in metal with not much success. If anyone has a link to info/vids on this I would be most appreciative. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=64878&hl=%2Bwire+%2Bwheels Edited June 6, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognib Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 (edited) Flathead eye candy. Edited June 6, 2013 by Ognib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro Wrench Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 This represents what I want on this build for wheels/tires. Want to build them out of metal to follow through with the materials used on the rest of the project. I've searched every modeling forum I can find & google for info on scale wires in metal with not much success. If anyone has a link to info/vids on this I would be most appreciative. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=64878&hl=%2Bwire+%2Bwheels kennb here on the forum has a tutorial in the tips section on how to build and use a lacing jig to make your own wire wheels. His results look great. Might be something you can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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