crispy Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Mark Gustavson) just did a mini review of the kit. here's a link to some photos:http://public.fotki.com/Roullier/model_cars-1/hosted-photos/ Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodiak Island Modeler Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 That looks like an excellent kit. I've not been much impressed by the new cars, but that one has piqued my interest. Thanks for sharing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white00gt Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 LOL- it figures I have been working on a convertible GT-H that I made from the Mustang GT kit , it's been sidelined due to hand surgery and now this, guess I have to buy one now and steal parts from..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I really do appreciate the quick look and review of basic kit quality, but I wish this first look had been done by someone with more knowledge about the real Mustang and the Revell kits. My main questions about what Revell has done on this kit vs. the '06 GT remain. My biggest concern are the wheels/tires. Anyone who has built the GT and is a Mustang fanatic knows what I'm talking about! Are the new wheels the correct size/shape? Are the tires new? My suspicion, based on the boxart, is Revell kept the GT tires (which are barely acceptable) and the new wheels have 5 spokes that are more of a "classic" shape vs. the Bullitt-style. Would have been nice to see a good crisp photo of the new grille as well. Oh well, in a month or so the kit will be out and we'll find out for sure! Again, it's nice to see the quick look, but basically I'm still very much in the dark about this kit's new details vs. the original GT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I was wondering about that too Bob! That's the main reason I used different wheels and tires when I built mine as I couldn't stand the kit ones. Another thing that has always bugged me about the boxart models is that they sit up waaaaaaaaaaay too high!! It could stand to be lowered a good 2 or 3 scale inches or so to maybe negate the wheels and tires not quite up to 1:1/1:25 scale in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) I'll never discourage anyone from hoping against hope, but guys, I'll just about guarantee you sight unseen that these Shelby kits are using the same tires as the GT kits. And I'm a little worried about the looks of that front end; Revell seems to have designed separate clips now, and it looks as if that design change may have compromised the headlight proportions a little. Doubtless by now you all have Revell's ads for the Shelby Super Snake due later in the year. That one has the new wheels with elliptical spokes, and it looks as if it's going to use the same tires the Revell Magnum - the ones that first saw use as the rear tires in the SSR kit, a bit oversized for 1/25 in this application. I've long thought the Jada kit might make a cool Super Snake, and it appears Revell's giving us just the parts donor we need for it... Edited July 1, 2008 by Chuck Kourouklis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 I'll never discourage anyone from hoping against hope, but guys, I'll just about guarantee you sight unseen that these Shelby kits are using the same tires as the GT kits. And I'm a little worried about the looks of that front end; Revell seems to have designed separate clips now, and it looks as if that design change may have compromised the headlight proportions a little. Doubtless by now you all have Revell's ads for the Shelby Super Snake due later in the year. That one has the new wheels with elliptical spokes, and it looks as if it's going to use the same tires the Revell Magnum - the ones that first saw use as the rear tires in the SSR kit, a bit oversized for 1/25 in this application. I've long thought the Jada kit might make a cool Super Snake, and it appears Revell's giving us just the parts donor we need for it... That ad snuck up on me! I was looking through the magazine, turned the page, saw the wheels, said "that's not the right wheel for a GT-500, then I looked at the name...GT500 KR...HMMMMM!!! Now we're talking! Not a peep has been heard about this kit before the ad; a new first, IIRC. I have zero need for a Revell GT500 now; the KR and the Hertz will be just fine...I hope... I'm not averse to custom wheels if necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 I suspect the reason we have a separate grille is due to the KR coming out. Interchangeable. Hopefully they read this board and not just the SH board and get the right feedback for wheels and tires. Thanks for your insight on this Bob and Chuck! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 The wheel size on the KR look correct. but the tires seem to be too tall. (too much sidewall). I applaud Revell for deciding to do the KR instead of the regular GT500. I just hope Revell gives us all the correct detail under the hood. The Hertz wheels appear to be one size too small. but I can deal with that. I'm planning on steeling the wheels out of that kit, put them on an 06 kit and build an 09 Mustang GT (debating on doing the glass roof option) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blubaja Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 The wheel size on the KR look correct. but the tires seem to be too tall. (too much sidewall). I applaud Revell for deciding to do the KR instead of the regular GT500. I just hope Revell gives us all the correct detail under the hood. The Hertz wheels appear to be one size too small. but I can deal with that. I'm planning on steeling the wheels out of that kit, put them on an 06 kit and build an 09 Mustang GT (debating on doing the glass roof option) Can't wait for the Hertz, especially! Last month's ad in the magazine(the other one) had the Hertz and regular GT500. So who knows. But all are welcome of course:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I applaud Revell for deciding to do the KR instead of the regular GT500. Not instead of the GT500, but in addition to. New hood, intake from GT350-H, different grilles, different wheels, pretty easy to do with the other Shelby parts they're making. Revell probably has been working on all three at the same time. Sure wish we could get a Parnelli Jones version, but I doubt that will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Revell recently issued their '06 Shelby GT-H, the black and gold car that you could rent at Hertz. They say it's got an automatic, but the kit pieces are still the GT manual transmission. Some have noted that a few very higher-up execs w/Hertz had Shelby GT-H's built with manual transmissions, so let's pretend this is one of those ultra-rare cars that the public couldn't buy, even at an auction A couple of us ACME Mustang fanatics gave the kit a going over yesterday and noticed that they tooled an entirely new body for the model. The front fascia is separate, the rear diffuser/front fascia are shared with the California Special version of the GT (never know, could be another variant from Revell). The hood is GT-H. They included a new parts tree w/GT-H specific parts, and a new chrome tree with the new wheels/grilles. It looks pretty decent, they did a good job with updating this kit. The wheels look small, the tires (shared w/GT) look too tall. The wheels scale out to 18", but just look small. They seem correct for the GT-H but not quite right for the newer 18" Bullitts. They'd be perfect for an '01-'04 GT. I'll let the pictures do most of the talking, and break this into two posts. My plans are to build the GT-H in white w/silver stripes sans rear spoiler; basically an '07 Shelby GT with the GT-H hood and silver stripes from the GT kit. GT-H on left, 06 GT on right: Closeup of K&N and side scoop: Strut brace on left, air box on right: Stock wheel with AMT Supra tire on left (thanks to whomever tipped us off to this trick), stock wheel/tire in center, Maisto Mercedes Benz SLK on right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 More! The Hertz fender emblem is tiny. I can't read it w/o magnification, but my camera can: Stock wheel/tire. Tire looks too tall, sidewall is far too plain. With AMT Supra tire; looks more natural. Model will definitely need to be lowered to look right. With the Mercedes wheels. I may very well use these for my Shelby GT variant; will need to get them a lot shinier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Thanks for the review Bob!..............And thanks for the heads up about the wheel and tires. That's one of my biggest gripes (along with kit glass) I have with the major kit makers. I know they do it out of cost, but I can't tell you how many kits I wouldn't buy because the wheels and tires are not right. My thought is that can make or break a kit on appearance alone. Maybe if they repeat this enough they'll get it................ Say it with me kit manufacturers........... Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Got it now? I hope so............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Say it with me kit manufacturers........... Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Proper wheels and tires Got it now? I hope so............ Don't hold your breath... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Revell does some great stuff and they're not afraid to spend some money (like the all-new body tool for Mustang), but then they inexplicably allow worst-in-the-industry stock tires to be included in their Mustangs. They should be ashamed of that, but clearly someone in the chain of command doesn't think it's a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 It would be nice if someone in the resin world would cast those Supra tires... I'm not interested in buying kits just for the tires, but they do look better than the Revell tires.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 hey, i was the one with the Supra tire fix! LOL, glad to see you guys noticed and are trying it out. i have a set of the GT-500 rims taking a bath to lose the chrome and then they will get painted, hopefully end up looking more realistic in the process. my one pic of the Hertz kit is the decal sheet. why Revell has chosen to limit us to just black for the body color is strange. might as well have molded the kit in black plastic then. when i bought the kit i wanted to build a light blue version similar to the original Hertz Mustang, but the stripes have the black all through them. Dave Thanks for the Supra tire trick, now the aftermarket needs to start offering modern street radials as there's a lot of Revell customers that want to upgrade and seemingly nobody out there filling the vacuum. One never knows why Revell does what it does. The stripes over the top of the car would be easy enough to trim the black strip away, but the side stripes would still be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white00gt Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Looks great -wheels are important (although it kind of looks like on real car wheels look dis-prportioned like the kit)but, I may be nuts but rear of it is wrong look at this pic: Edited August 25, 2008 by white00gt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Looks great -wheels are important (although it kind of looks like on real car wheels look dis-prportioned like the kit)but, I may be nuts but rear of it is wrong look at this pic: I still think that the wheels in the kit are the newer 18" Bullitts. i'm making a set of the older wheels out of a set of Pegasus Torque Thrusts. and the older wheels have more of a lip to them. which the Revell kit does'nt have. plus I would think revell would tool up the news ones since the upcoming 09 Bullitt kit should have the newer style wheels since the 1:1 has them older Bullitt style Torque Thrust wheels The new ones also. Revell got the year wrong. the kit from all my research represents the 07 Hertz car, not the 06 listed on the box. the rear panel is correct for an 07. its kinda hard too see is this pic but this is an 07 GT-H. you can see this car has the updated rear bumper treatment. and the new 18" Bullitt wheels. Edited August 25, 2008 by gasman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) I had not noticed that the rear diffuser was incorrect for the '06 Hertz. I wonder what other variants they might be planning? The diffuser is also incorrect for the Bullitt. Something makes me think they've got a California Special cooked up, or were planning one, or decided that the GT500/Cali Special rear diffuser was going to have to suffice for the other variants. The hoods interchange between the new GT-H and the GT, and vice-versa. The wheels are definitely the newer 18's. They sure look small, but the calipers don't lie. .785" X 25 = 19.625" diameter, which is correct for an 18" wheel w/the tire retaining lip. The GT500 wheels are the same size; so even though they look small, they're correct. We'd really be b*tching if Revell had made these GT-H wheels actual 17's. The truck tires Revell includes w/the Mustangs are the biggest reason the wheels all look small. Edited August 25, 2008 by Zoom Zoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
white00gt Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I still think that the wheels in the kit are the newer 18" Bullitts. i'm making a set of the older wheels out of a set of Pegasus Torque Thrusts. and the older wheels have more of a lip to them. which the Revell kit does'nt have. plus I would think revell would tool up the news ones since the upcoming 09 Bullitt kit should have the newer style wheels since the 1:1 has them older Bullitt style Torque Thrust wheels The new ones also. Revell got the year wrong. the kit from all my research represents the 07 Hertz car, not the 06 listed on the box. the rear panel is correct for an 07. its kinda hard too see is this pic but this is an 07 GT-H. you can see this car has the updated rear bumper treatment. and the new 18" Bullitt wheels. Funny I saw the 07 and didn't notice the difuser on it although I did notice the 18 in.wheels with what they call the "euro lip" like the Bullit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 It looks to me like that if one wanted to put a little work into converting the body to convertible form, a fairly accurate '07 GT-H could be built from this kit. (Remember, all '07 GT-Hs were droptops.) Tim Boyd has an excellent article in the new issue of Scale Auto that shows all the steps involved in the conversion, and it doesn't look as if it would be terribly difficult. You'd still have to find it it way to convert it to an automatic if you wanted it to be 100 percent accurate, and you'd also have to scratchbuild the roll bar seen in this photo. Of course, Revell could save us all the trouble if it would tool up a convertible variant! The Revell/Monogram Saleen Speedster has the roll bar, also an uptop that could be carefully split into three parts (2 sides and middle) and widened; the shape of the uptop didn't change much with the new body. Rumor that a few GT-H's slipped out w/manual transmissions for Hertz executives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weirich1 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I was just glad to see Revell got a few important details right on the GT-H: hood, front fascia, grill work, wheels (even though tires look like truck tires), strut tower brace, air intake system. I didn't buy the GT-H but it looks like an improvement to the '05 & up GT kit. Still waiting on the GT500KR release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 It looks to me like that if one wanted to put a little work into converting the body to convertible form, a fairly accurate '07 GT-H could be built from this kit. (Remember, all '07 GT-Hs were droptops.) Tim Boyd has an excellent article in the new issue of Scale Auto that shows all the steps involved in the conversion, and it doesn't look as if it would be terribly difficult. You'd still have to find it it way to convert it to an automatic if you wanted it to be 100 percent accurate, and you'd also have to scratchbuild the roll bar seen in this photo. Of course, Revell could save us all the trouble if it would tool up a convertible variant! I have an extra Saleen '98 kit, and got the Scale Auto issue today... I want to do a stock '06 GT convertible, a GT500 convertible, a GT-H convertible, and something custom (2 seat roadster w/ a tonneau like the Saleen). For the GT-Hs maybe I'll scratchbuild an automatic shifter...they look simple enough looking at the brochure and pics online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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