Joe Handley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Finally got around do shooting some A-Team vs Vantasy comparison shots http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v698/bjoehandley/Plastic%20Models/Vans/A%20Team%20vs%20Dirty%20Donny%20Vans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Thanks, Billy Joe for doing this comparo. Too bad that driver figure is not a Mr. T! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzboy66 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Actually, the A-Team kits (as well as most of the 1/1's) were also sliding door vans.... Yup, absolutely. MY mistake. I had all of my old vans kits out looking at all of the variances, and it's the DODGE that has the bi-folds. Thanks for the correction. So, it seems as though the biggest differences between the A-Team and the new/old Vantasy are the side and roof ribs, license plate recess in the rear door on the Vantasy, and the GMC parts in the A-Team version. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 No problem Mike, I was thinking of the issues of this kit I've bought ( a few older than me too) all had the sliders. I am curious on the side and roof ribs on the 1/1 '71-'77 Vans now though................now where is Ed at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshaver Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's interesting that the reinforcing ribs couldn't have been included in the "New " van kit . I can see the deletion of the Charicter rib in the side as the 71-77's didn't have this feature . Also, if you have access to the side door on a 1-1 van , there was a difference in the way the indentation was made at the outside door handle . I guess I'll have to see which dash board was used as it too changed in 1974. Ed Shaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) It's interesting that the reinforcing ribs couldn't have been included in the "New " van kit . I can see the deletion of the Charicter rib in the side as the 71-77's didn't have this feature . Also, if you have access to the side door on a 1-1 van , there was a difference in the way the indentation was made at the outside door handle . I guess I'll have to see which dash board was used as it too changed in 1974. Ed Shaver Ah-Ha! I was begining to think I was imagening things with that part of the side door Looked like it was backwards (as in flipped or reversed) from what the later 1/1 Vans I grew up around had The roof rib thing is a head scratcher, since the addition actually made the kit more accurate I'd be surprised of they changed the dash then too Ed, if they didn't bother updating it for the A-Team version back in the day............ BTW, thanks for the input! Edited January 21, 2012 by Joe Handley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshaver Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Billy, having to do door adjustments on both Ford and Chevrolet vans was to me a pain in the neck. Guys would inadvertently buy the "Door extenders" and then they couldn't get the side door to latch. Meanwhile , cause I retailed a lot of stuff, I got to go outside the shop and repair THEIR repairs . In the years I owned Art- Forms design, it was both a blessing and a complete head ache at the same time . Ed Shaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) It's interesting that the reinforcing ribs couldn't have been included in the "New " van kit . I can see the deletion of the Charicter rib in the side as the 71-77's didn't have this feature . Also, if you have access to the side door on a 1-1 van , there was a difference in the way the indentation was made at the outside door handle . I guess I'll have to see which dash board was used as it too changed in 1974. Ed Shaver Looks like the kit has the '71-73 style dash. That part was never updated for the A-Team version IIRC. Now the Revell kit that is coming soon has the '74 dash, I've heard (never had one of the Revell kits). Edited January 22, 2012 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Billy, having to do door adjustments on both Ford and Chevrolet vans was to me a pain in the neck. Guys would inadvertently buy the "Door extenders" and then they couldn't get the side door to latch. Meanwhile , cause I retailed a lot of stuff, I got to go outside the shop and repair THEIR repairs . In the years I owned Art- Forms design, it was both a blessing and a complete head ache at the same time . Ed Shaver I can't imagine what those massive side doors would be like to align Ed, how many guys would that take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) I am curious on the side and roof ribs on the 1/1 '71-'77 Vans now though Not sure if you can make out the raised roof ribs on this GMC or not: ...and here's a semi-decent shot of the passenger side of the same GMC shorty: Edited January 22, 2012 by Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzboy66 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Not sure if you can make out the raised roof ribs on this GMC or not: ...and here's a semi-decent shot of the passenger side of the same GMC shorty: WOW, I remember that ad! I used to love looking at it. I'd love to have a 1:1 of that pickup. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Car Crazy 81 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I dont know if its me i'd noticed on the stock grille & bumper part 63 that the turn signal lights are too far in also it has hardly no interior & the hood is molded shut but other than that still a nice kit to build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Oh man, do I remember that van. My friend's family had one with those seats . . . we rode in style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonioseven Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Who's gonna build this version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Not...........me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62rebel Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 even with an opening hood, you can barely see much more than the radiator on one of these. most didn't have side windows so having a detailed interior was hardly worth the effort. they're blank canvas for side murals, mostly... but i remember a lot of guys going full tilt boogie on them and opening the doors, hood, even opening the roof and adding full interiors back in the heyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 even with an opening hood, you can barely see much more than the radiator on one of these. most didn't have side windows so having a detailed interior was hardly worth the effort. they're blank canvas for side murals, mostly... but i remember a lot of guys going full tilt boogie on them and opening the doors, hood, even opening the roof and adding full interiors back in the heyday. Which is exactly how Revell designed their 1/25 custom van kits- with a lift off roof to allow the interior to be easily viewed. It is difficult to see much engine detail through the hood opening, so a removable engine cover is a must if you want to show off the engine on a van model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 It is difficult to see much engine detail through the hood opening, so a removable engine cover is a must if you want to show off the engine on a van model. Kinda got to do that on a 1/1 van too, especially with the mid 80's and newer G-Vans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62rebel Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 my peeve with Revell's product from that timeframe is inaccurate chassis and running gear on their trucks, and their habit of using the same frame and running gear on several different kits, all of them supposedly heavy duty working trucks.... that gave me pause in buying their stuff for years afterward. i missed out on their van series and the truck/van accessory parts packs that came out because of that. maybe if we'd had some sort of shared information network in those days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eshaver Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Curt , you sure you aren't confusing A M T's Van and then Monogram's , now Revell's stuff. I only say that on account of the Monogram Short wheel base that Revell is re-popping has a molded open grille , a accurate for the model dash and at least closer to the truth than A M T's Long wheel base variant with out roof ribs I might add. Either way, you'll wind up filing off the molded wheel flairs on Revell's variant .You;ll wind up adding roof ribs to A M T's and then if you need an accurate dash beyond a 73 on the A M T, uh get to scratch building ............. Ed Shaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
62rebel Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 sorry Ed, i was referring to the Chevy truck-based kits, the vans were an unfortunate casualty of being disappointed with kits like Midnite Express, etc, with generic smallblock engines and non-typical frames. i was so peeved with those i swore off Revell kits for a long time and missed some of their really accurate stuff. the vantasy won't have roof ribs? shoot; i thought they were ALWAYS on vans.... so... ahhhh... hmm. curiouser and curiouser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluzboy66 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm planning out a build-up of the new Vantasy, and eye-balling the decal sheets. I'd thought of doing a Candy/Emerald Green paintjob, and using the green panel decals........until......??.........my decal sheet has two passenger-side green panels!!......no driver's side. One of the decals has a cut-out for the sliding side door handle, and the other doesn't. Has AMT since revised this, or, are all of them this way? .....compare the green panels to the correctly-printed purple/pink versions below them on the same sheet in the pic. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Hmmm..that looks like an 'oops' on the decals. Haven't looked closely at mine yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'm planning a 'Dajiban' style build for one, minus the 'Daji' part, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I have thought about that too Chuck......think the AMT Camaro Concept Car would make a good parts donor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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