ismaelg Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 (edited) Hello, Plastikote T235 has been the Sheriff in Spray Can Primer county for years. However, it is getting harder to find and now, a newcomer wants the position. Is Plastikote ready to retire? Background story: T235 has been my favorite primer in a spray can for years. But it is getting harder and harder to find. The only place in town carrying it, no longer has it. The dealer recommended me this "other" primer: Dupont Nason 421-24 gray primer. He insisted it was as good or better. Skeptical, I got a can for testing purposes. Performance Shots fired: For testing purposes, I used a Revell 2005 C6 Corvette roof as the guinea pig, as this softer plastic is very sensitive. Nason went on very smooth, very much like Plastikote. The back was sprayed with Plastikote. If there is any difference, it is that Nason is just a hair lighter in color. That makes no difference in performance. Score: tie Nason sanded out smooth pretty much like Plastikote. It felt just a hair harder than T235 when sanding with a 2400 polishing pad, but not enough to call it a difference. They were both sprayed lacquer blue paint. I don't see any difference. Score: Still tied These two are tied in performance. Is there any other difference? Yes. Plastikote is very hard to find in my area, and getting even harder. Nason is now carried by the automotive paint outlets, so it is a bit easier to find. Not WalMart Pep-Boys easy, but easier nonetheless. Price: Nason was about $1 LESS expensive than Plastikote: $5 vs $6. They are both tied in performance but Nason gets the edge in availability and price. Your mileage may vary, some restrictions apply, for demostration purposes only, This is not a paid endorsement, etc etc. Thanks, Edited October 9, 2007 by ismaelg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Great and funny post!! Thanks for the heads up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 izzy.........i think you might need to get a second job. or maybe get some more sleep at night. jk very nice to know izzy. it's nice theres so many othe out there with new ideas and new products to make it easier and better in the end. thanks for the shoot out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jairus Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Nice comparison dude! I am quite impressed... But.... did you try sanding? This is one reason I love Plastikote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonoPed Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Funny post! Is Nason available in white like Plastikote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismaelg Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 Is Nason available in white like Plastikote? According to their website it is available in 421-24 Gray, 421-25 Red Oxide and 421-26 Beige Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatRedmond Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Still have T235 up here, so i'm OK, but thanks for the heads-up. Good fun post, Is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismaelg Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 did you try sanding? This is one reason I love Plastikote. I agree. That has to be one of the top reasons for loving Plastikote. I did some sanding with as 2400 pad. They both felt similar, maybe a hair harder on the Nason, but too close to call. I guess a better sanding test would have to be a larger surface like a complete body or at least a hood. I'll see if I can do something this week. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Davkin Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 You don't have a Car Quest in your area? I too was kind left twisting in the wind when Pep Boys switched to Duplicolor. I finally gave in and tried Duplicolor primer and hated it. I then got serious about searching for Plastikote again and discovered all the Car Quest stores carry it. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMc Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Michaels craft store carrys a plastikote sandable primer white or grey for around 4.00 per can. It's lacquer and seems to be the same as 235 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dub Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) Michaels craft store carrys a plastikote sandable primer white or grey for around 4.00 per can. It's lacquer and seems to be the same as 235 If it's this stuff: it is a little different because it is a bit "thicker" for lack of a better term. It is a really good filler primer and it doesn't seem to craze newer kits weaker plastic. I have used both and they are both good but aren't the same. Edited November 19, 2007 by dub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMc Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 If it's this stuff: it is a little different because it is a bit "thicker" for lack of a better term. It is a really good filler primer and it doesn't seem to craze newer kits weaker plastic. I have used both and they are both good but aren't the same. Yep that is it. I keep this outside in my garage so it's kept between 80 and 90 degrees and if shot thin does not fill in too much detail. I can only find the 235 in grey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v8horsepowercj Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I know you said you shot over it with lacquer in your post but Is the Nason good at protecting the plastic from the hotter Lacquer Paints for example have you had a chance to say remove some molded in details and then shoot a fairly wet coat of lacquer over the Nason primer and then see if it gives you any "ghosting" where the detail seems to amazingly reappear in the paint? I heard of several ppl claiming that the Nason 2 part Urethane Clear is a really good clear coat over the testors lacquer paints and after seeing some of the paint jobs I'd have to agree. I might have to get a few cans of this primer when I pick up that clear. Thanks for the comparison. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ismaelg Posted October 9, 2007 Author Share Posted October 9, 2007 Beware of the Nason. I posted elsewhere it turned out to be bad for models. I used it on a Revell body and it did not stick. I prepped the surface and tried several times but it flakes off every time. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davysmodels Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 In my search to find Plasti-kote primers (T:235,236,237 and red oxide), i found this old post. If you live in the SoCAL area, Car Quest NO LONGER sells Plasti-Kote paints. New company owns CQ and now they only sell Duplicolor. I contacted Plasti-Kote and they had no retail referrals. Duplicolor must be offering all the auto parts stores a penny on the dollar to buy their paints. Plasti-kote is a great primer and it's a huge loss that it is not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1930fordpickup Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 In my search to find Plasti-kote primers (T:235,236,237 and red oxide), i found this old post. If you live in the SoCAL area, Car Quest NO LONGER sells Plasti-Kote paints. New company owns CQ and now they only sell Duplicolor. I contacted Plasti-Kote and they had no retail referrals. Duplicolor must be offering all the auto parts stores a penny on the dollar to buy their paints. Plasti-kote is a great primer and it's a huge loss that it is not available. You may have to look at the next state over for some referrals take a drive and buy a case. It is harder and harder to find what we like to use anymore . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lownslow Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I use the AB version of nason never had problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Plastikote T-235 is great stuff and will stand up to any auto paint I've thrown at it. However, it has to be sanded. (It wet-sands magnificently with #800 Wetordry, used wet.) I still have a few cans I save for "special" jobs. My standard primer these days is the cheap Walmart stuff. Light gray, goes on thin, dries smooth and fast, and stands up to ALMOST anything. Almost cheaper than Walmart Cola, too. What's not to like? It's one of the few genuine BARGAINS still available in Model Car World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaina Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I also tried to get plasticote at my local carquest and they also replaced it with duplicolor. I live in Nebraska. They told me that they couldn't get it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake45 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 PlastiKote has a retail locator on their website. Last time I checked it, a couple years ago, it pointed me to a place across town and I bought a couple cans. Just now checked it and the nearest location is in the next town, 25 miles away. Huh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_G Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 NAPA stores can order it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draggon Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 This is where I get my plastikote. Less than 8 bucks shipped. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000CPAA3A/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new A can of Duplicolor in my town runs 10 bucks, plus 10% sales tax. I'm going to have to check on that Nason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 This is where I get my plastikote. Less than 8 bucks shipped. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000CPAA3A/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new A can of Duplicolor in my town runs 10 bucks, plus 10% sales tax. I'm going to have to check on that Nason. Will they ship a single can for free? It states free shipping with orders over $35. The owner of my local parts house that carried Plasti Kote told me some time ago (maybe a year) that Valspar bought Plasti Kote. It wasn't long after he told me that the goofy locking, spitting spray nozzles appeared on them. Today I was determined to find a place that sold Plasti Kote with zero luck. The last stop I made was at Lowes. I made my way to the spray paint aisle and there was Valspar sandable primer with the exact same locking, spitting nozzle on it. Looked at the price and it was $3.98 for a 12 oz. can. I bought a can of gray and white. I'm getting ready to spray a body with the gray to see how it works. It may be good primer. It may not be worth a spit. One thing I noticed is that the Plasti Kote and the Valspar have the exact same first five lot numbers on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 How would you rate the spray nozzles, one versus the other? And, what type is used on the Nason can? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Kucaba Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 A while back, it was mentioned that the spitting nozzle can be removed and replaced by a Tamiya one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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