E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) <img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> ), <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> - at least for me <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyBad Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Awesome Tips Dave... I know I'm on the right track, now. It is good to know that you can turn out Such Great paint jobs with a cheap airbrush. Now to find a cheap airbrush and a walk in spray booth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharr7226 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thanks for sharing your methods and insights. I love your work and your attitude. If we had Goodwill Ambassadors for our hobby, you would definitely get one of my votes. I have one question... Do you apply another coat of primer after shooting Zinser BIN or do you apply color on top of the Zinser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188246:date=Jun 24 2009, 07:29 PM:name=pharr7226)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pharr7226 @ Jun 24 2009, 07:29 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188246"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->I have one question... Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188254:date=Jun 24 2009, 07:46 PM:name=George)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(George @ Jun 24 2009, 07:46 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188254"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Glad it'll help <img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/coo <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" /> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick6343 Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Thank you very much, Dave! Looks like I have some supplies to get. I think this kind of post is great-I'd love to see more users discuss their techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leereyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 This sounds like great advice that I am going to try Dave. I just lost a painted and decaled body when I went to clear it because the paint was applied about two days before. DOH! It's in the "dip" as I speak. My question is I'm doing a replica of my 81 Corvette and I want my decals under the clear. They are small and not difficult to do but there are about 9 to apply. I want to take my time applying them so how long do I wait after I paint the color coat to apply them and how much time do I have after I'm done so the clear won't attack the color coat? I hope this isn't a confusing question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188313:date=Jun 25 2009, 05:31 AM:name=leereyn)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(leereyn @ Jun 25 2009, 05:31 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188313"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->This sounds like great advice that I am going to try <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leereyn Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Hi Lee A very clearly stated question, and good timing. I'm working on a pretty intense decal project right now, that's clear coated. As I stated in my post, I have a 24 hour window of time to work in. The other thing I keep in mind is that I like my decals to dry overnight so there is no moisture present when I clear-coat. Given those two parameters, I also like to start applying the decals about an hour or so after the last coat of color or clear. For me I start applying the decals around 1 or 2 o'clock in the afternoon, after shooting my last coat of paint around noon. This gives the paint I use plenty of time to dry, before the decaling begins. This also gives me plenty of time to lay down the decals, and allow them to dry over-night, and then start shooting the clear in the morning, or at least within that "24 HOUR WINDOW". If for some reason you don't get all the decaling done all at once, the next day you can lay down a light and medium coat coat of clear, for a glossy finish, and then finish up your decaling later, followed by the normal three steps of clearing. For me, after the decaling is done, I do the three-step several times to get the build up I want, waiting about an hour between each 3-step for drying, and then sand where the edge of the decals may cause an un-even surface, spray a third three-step at least once, then let dry 12 hours, and polish. Remember, 15 minutes between each coat of clear. Now remember I'm retired, so I can choose the time of day to start and finish a little easier than "working guys", so you may have to be a little more creative in your timing, but at least you get the general idea . Everybody ends up using their own techniques, but at least this gives you something concrete to start with. Hope all this was clear enough to help. Good luck on your project, and don't forget to do samples first when your un-sure - dave Perfectly clear and thanks for the reply Dave. Actually, I'm on vacation next week so the timing is perfect to try your method. I hate that I messed up in the first place but when life deals you lemons as they say.........I'm looking forward to trying this. You gave me a schedule and everything. How did anyone learn anything before message boards? Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Great tips Dave but you forgot something........ Pictures of your painted and finished models!!!! I am sure we all want to see them, it just makes this great tutorial more complete. Thanks!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188348:date=Jun 25 2009, 08:47 AM:name=marcos cruz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(marcos cruz @ Jun 25 2009, 08:47 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188348"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--><img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> I a <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 Now that's what I'm talking about!!!!Thanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMc Posted June 25, 2009 Share Posted June 25, 2009 WOW !!!!!! I think that this is one of the simplest, most logical and well written paint tips I have ever seen here or elsewhere. I have done the same steps as you, and as I refined my techniques the results speak for themselves! I just like to "delay " the final polish till everything is rockhard. As I live in a tropical area ( I get cold at 65f) I'm used to shooting in warm temp...but love my dehydrator!! THANKS DAVE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dave- What kind of cloth do you use for rubbing out etc? I can't wait to try this method by the way. I actually painted a body the other day almost in this way because I was in a hurry to get to work! It came out nice, now I need to try it on purpose! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 26, 2009 Author Share Posted June 26, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188434:date=Jun 25 2009, 05:30 PM:name=Dave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Dave @ Jun 25 2009, 05:30 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188434"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Dave- <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> <img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted June 26, 2009 Share Posted June 26, 2009 As they say, a picture is worth 1,000 words. Dave, your models speak for themselves... your system obviously works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towmaster Dave Posted June 27, 2009 Share Posted June 27, 2009 (edited) Thanks Dave for the helpfull tips. I have painted this A100 twice and had to dip it in the brake fluid twice. I painted this today your way and I think it turned out GREAT using Testors One Coat Laquer and Wet Look Clear. Edited June 27, 2009 by Towmaster Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188827:date=Jun 27 2009, 04:19 PM:name=Towmaster Dave)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Towmaster Dave @ Jun 27 2009, 04:19 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188827"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> <img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /> Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Kortman Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Great models Dave!!! They look great. Seeing them did give me a couple of questions though. (I appologize if you already explained this and I missed it) How would you use your technique for 2 toned or multi-colored paint jobs? How long do you wait before doing the tape outs? What tape do you like to use? When doing a multiple color job, do you spray light to dark or vise versa? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=188937:date=Jun 28 2009, 06:41 AM:name=Tommy Kortman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tommy Kortman @ Jun 28 2009, 06:41 AM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=188937"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec--> <img src="http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="biggrin.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="blink.gif" /> probably, but it works <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="rolleyes.gif" / <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> >>>> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/angry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="angry.gif" /> , <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/ohmy.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="ohmy.gif" /> OUCH !! <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> . <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" /> , and boy have I made some huge mistakes <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="wink.gif" /> . Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Kortman Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Thanks Dave. Oh...one more thing. Do you warm the paint cans? Or do you not have to worry about that because you are spraying in a temp controlled booth? If you don't, do you have an opinion on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) <!--quoteo(post=189045:date=Jun 28 2009, 05:12 PM:name=Tommy Kortman)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tommy Kortman @ Jun 28 2009, 05:12 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=189045"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Thanks Dave. Edited August 8, 2010 by Treehugger Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E St. Kruiser50 Posted August 23, 2009 Author Share Posted August 23, 2009 Here's the thread I did a while back that was mentioned here. Hope this helps - dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cranky Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 What a great collection of gorgeous vehicles, Dave. Wow. Fine work on all of them!!! Thanks for the tips. I have to say you can never give Plastikote gray primer enough credit. What a great primer that is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hizoot Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Dave, I think it's great you're giving the newbie's a paint tutorial & your paint system obviously speaks for itself. Plus Virgil is right as that Plasti-Kote primer is a good foundation for most any paint situation. But that's the problem, in several states Plasti-Kote & other lacquer products are NOT available due to unrealistic air quality regulations. Both in AZ & here in CA these products you recommend are in fact, non exsistant..! I'm an old school painter myself & can appreciate your methods but I think we need to advise your readers that not all of these products are available in your area. Sorry if I sound like disclaimer Dan here but you need to think outside your box for this. Thanks, Hizoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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