cotto Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Which one is better or more accurate? I have both and would like to decide on which one to build but I don't remember seeing them reviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I just picked one up today from Ollie's, just paid 9.99 and I must say that it looks very cool. I thought I saw a review sometime here but don't remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboKitty Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 LOL I can pretty much say the same as Futurabat, only the opposite kit wise. I have multiple Testors Charger kits and I love them, they are pretty detailed and make a nice model that looks very accurate when completed. I haven't had the chance to built the Lindberg kit yet though, but I will take other's word for it that it is a great kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 They're pretty much the same- in fact I think they are molded from the same tooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 They're pretty much the same- in fact I think they are molded from the same tooling. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Testors is just the Lindberg kit reboxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) The Testors versions came out first then the Lindberg version came out a year or so later IIIRC. And the Lindberg version is an SRT8 Super Bee, different trim (wheels, stripes, hood) and engine from the Testors.versions which were an R/T and an R/T Daytona. Based on the same tooling. Edited October 3, 2011 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixx Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 They're pretty much the same- in fact I think they are molded from the same tooling. I think you're right Chuck, & I swear I read that somewhere, that they are the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 As for the kit, the testor's and lindberg chargers are the same kit , I have built both and they 100% the same. Lindberg used testors molds . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 As for the kit, the testor's and lindberg chargers are the same kit , I have built both and they 100% the same. Lindberg used testors molds . Not quite 100%---they are different trim versions of the Charger from the same tooling. Testors did the R/T and R/T Daytona, Lindberg has done the SRT8 Super Bee and police car. Differences in wheels, decals, and engine and hood (for the SRT8 version). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Not quite 100%---they are different trim versions of the Charger from the same tooling. Testors did the R/T and R/T Daytona, Lindberg has done the SRT8 Super Bee and police car. Differences in wheels, decals, and engine and hood (for the SRT8 version). You are right, I was thinking about the none SRT8 version , but the other then those things, the tooling is all the same Lindberg police chargers come with the front and rear spoiler's and all the wheels from daytona verison. what it comes down to is, whatever SRT8 kit you get ( Lindberg/Testor) they are for the most part the same kit tooling just in a different box Edited October 3, 2011 by martinfan5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Testors and Lindberg kits all come from the same engineering and tooling, with small component variations as required by the specific "model" being modeled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320wayne Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Testors and Lindberg kits all come from the same engineering and tooling, with small component variations as required by the specific "model" being modeled. This is correct. All you have to do is spread out each box contents (if you have both) to see that most of the parts trees are identical other than the small differences in specific model of Charger already stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If that's the case, then somebody please explain how/why the same kits are being sold by two different companies. What's the story here? What's the connection between Testors and Lindberg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I don't know about Testors/Lindberg but it does happen. The Polar Lights Batmobile is from the same laser scan that Mattell used and they are completely unrelated. So it stands to reason two kit companies might do the same. Right? Yeah. But why??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If that's the case, then somebody please explain how/why the same kits are being sold by two different companies. What's the story here? What's the connection between Testors and Lindberg? It's probably like many other Testors kits, no connection at all with the exception of money. If you just look at many of the Testors branded kits, they are all nothing but another company's kit reboxed in a Testors box. Many of the Testors exotic car kits are either Italeri or Fujimi molds, many of the aircraft kits are also Italeri, and in the late 80s/early 90s Testors also had a few truck kits like a Freightliner FLC and a container trailer that were, you guessed it, Italeri kits. Testors is not the only one who reboxes kits either. Revell in the 90s also reboxed many of Italeri's truck kits in both Revell AG and Revell US boxes. I have a Ford Aeromax 120 that was boxed in a Revell US box, and it is nothing but the Italeri kit with a different set of decals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If that's the case, then somebody please explain how/why the same kits are being sold by two different companies. What's the story here? What's the connection between Testors and Lindberg? Licensing ~ investing ~ marketing ~ leveraging. One guy has the goods but lacks an effective distribution/marketing system. The other guy has the contacts, distributors, shipping and marketing stuff in place but doesn't want to spend money developing the product. So, one "buys" the goods other from the other and they enter into a mutually beneficial contract. Happens a lot. Can you say Ford/Mazda? Or Isuzu and Chevy? Or Daiwoo and everybody? Remember several of JoHan's promos that became AMT or MPC or SMP kits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highway Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Or Isuzu and Chevy? Or, also in the GM family, don't forget Geo/Chevy and Suzuki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I understand one company re-issuing another company's retreads, but I really don't see the logic (or what sort of deal was made) by two active, competing companies "sharing" a newly-tooled kit and both selling it under their own respective brands. Who paid for the initial tooling and development? Who paid for the licensing? Who actually is cranking out the plastic? Who is doing the distribution? How are the profits shared? Are Lindberg and Testors owned by the same people? Are they two different brands operating under one corporate umbrella? A million questions. I'd love to hear the actual facts as to how this deal was come to, and why, because on the surface it doesn't seem to make sense. Obviously the deal did make sense to the people involved, otherwise they would never have agreed to it. But I'm curious as to how this came about. BTW... the same thing happened with the recent series of 1/6 scale engines. Some were sold in Hawk boxes, some in Testors boxes... some were sold as kits, some were sold as pre-assembled models. Strange... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Or... the way Revell shuffles around the Revell and Monogram brand names? Like the Basic Builder '32 Ford coupe, which was originally from Monogram looooooooooong before the two companies merged? Or late '80's Ertl's insistence to reissue AMT kits under the MPC brand name and vice versa? Yes, I know, kind of on a different slant from the subject at hand, I know. But still! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveG Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If that's the case, then somebody please explain how/why the same kits are being sold by two different companies. What's the story here? What's the connection between Testors and Lindberg? It's pretty simple, all those new Charger plastic kits were made by Lindberg from the same tooling. Look at the boxes, J. Lloyd is the parent Co. of Hawk/Lindberg. Testors and Lindberg had worked out a marketing agreement giving Testors the first two runs, Lindberg got the SRT8 and Testors was supposed to do the Police version. After Testors decided to drop plastic kits, Lindberg obtained the license from Dodge and did the Police car kits. It's happened before, MPC produced kits for AMT in the early days. Johan kits were sold by AMT and so on.... What's the connection between Testors and Lindberg? It's Ernie Petit who had a long career at Testors before retiring, then running Hawk/Lindberg for Jody Keener. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 And to confuse matters further, Testors also did diecast Charger police cars. Or... the way Revell shuffles around the Revell and Monogram brand names? Like the Basic Builder '32 Ford coupe, which was originally from Monogram looooooooooong before the two companies merged? Or late '80's Ertl's insistence to reissue AMT kits under the MPC brand name and vice versa? Yes, I know, kind of on a different slant from the subject at hand, I know. But still! Those are different in that the Revell and Monogram brands are owned by the same company, likewise for AMT and MPC. Testors and Lindberg are not owned by the same company AFAIK. It's more like when ERTL/AMT issued an Aoshima kit under the AMT brand.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickRollerLT1 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 IIRC, the J. Lloyd Company (which houses the Hawk/Lindberg brands) owns a part of RPM (the company that owns Testors, Rustoluem, etc.). Which explains the Testors Charger in the Lindberg box abit with some cosmetic changes, and the Lindberg/Hawk/Pryo '25 T in diecast form under the Testors Metal-Kit series (the one thats red w/flames on the cover). Correct me if im worng, but the Testors/Lindberg Charger RT & Daytona kits first started out life in the hobby exclusive "Lincoln Mint" diecast kit series (along with the 69 GTO and a few other) crica 2007-ish. Then after those Lincoln Mint barely sold anything, they reboxed the RT and Daytona diecasts in mass retail form (along with adding a Police car to the lineup - which explianes the parts found in the LIndberg kit). Then they let Lindberg use the tooling to versions of the SRT-8 and the Police cars in all-plastic form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinfan5 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yes they did release the chargers in the Franklin mint series , I bought a few of them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronw Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Testor's has also sold Maisto diecast as kits. Outside of finishing products (paint, tools, decal supplies etc) Testors is primarily a distributor. I can't think of any kits that were really made by Testors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydime Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 It's definitely not odd for one company to brand products made by a different company. I pulled the "Bose" premium speakers out of my old Camaro only to find they were just the same old Delco speakers with a Bose sticker on them. A company wants to get into a market, licenses their name on someone else's product, and they have an instant line of merchandise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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