tubbs Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 ok, sitting here mulling over more projects to start, yea, i'll finish something sometime..... and I would like to know what current kit out there has the baddest modern ford motor in it? I figure its going to come out of a mustang of some sort, maybe a lightning truck? what do you guys think? should be a kit that is readily available (in other words, inexpensive or if anyone has a motor or kit to trade....) and nice chassis parts would be a plus. this is something I am really not ready to start, just throwing a line out there and we will see where it leads. who knows, maybe straight to the bench like everything else I get. it will be going in a thunderbolt, if it matters. thanks in advance, Tubbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cato Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Al, In my opinion, forget the modern modulars. The 'blow-away' choices for a T-bolt are the 429 Boss Shotgun or the Cammer. Others can help you with what kits they come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vypurr59 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Magna Boss Supercharged Ford Pro Mod Drag Engine Ross Gibson. Sounds like a winner in the Thunderbolt http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/rge-607.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitforbattle Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I think it's really cool to do a swap for something modern or race. How about an older (not old old) cosworth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 For a modern Ford engine, I'd go with the Coyote 5.0 from the '12 Revell Boss 302 kit, or the 5.4 from the '10 Revell Shelby kit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 (edited) Since you asked about a "modern" engine, I'll answer your actual question rather than try to tell you what you should build. Rob's right about the "Coyote" being the most modern. The Boss 302 version is factory rated at 444hp. Possibly more readily available is the older 4-cam engine, and it will make some serious horsepower. The Ford "modular" 4.6 litre 4-CAM, 4-VALVE PER CYLINDER V8 was last available from Ford in the 2004 Mustang Mach I, rated at 310hp. An iron-block version of the same engine, but supercharged and rated at 390hp, came in the 2003-4 SVT Mustang Cobra. Konigsegg thought enough of the engine to put a twin-supercharged version of it, rated at 806hp, in their CCR. A pretty decent modular 4-cam is available, usually cheap, in the AMT Phantom Vickie kit. The engine isn't supercharged, but it's not hard to make something up. It also has a not-too-accurate 5-speed manual gearbox. The rest of the kit is a great parts donor, with a nice independent front suspension setup that easily adapts to other cars, nice wheels and tires, a generic repop '32 Ford frame and other '32 bits. Edited June 25, 2014 by Ace-Garageguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSNJim Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Without a doubt, the supercharged 5.4L 540HP engine in the Revell 2010 Ford Shelby GT 500 is the baddest motor out there. Flipping back through the thread, I see that Rob Hall mentioned it. With a bit of modeler's license, you could probably call it the 660 HP motor from the 2013 GT 500.... For pure power, you probably won't find anything better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaleDale Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I have a 2010 Mustang GT with the 4.6 liter supercharged engine that donated it's body to my Mustang Pro Stock project boxed and ready to go. Everything but the body is there. Hit me a pm if you want it. The Petty Taledaga Toreno kit has two motors, a 429 and 427. You can't have either ;-0 Dale Edited June 26, 2014 by ScaleDale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 AMT's '60 and '61 Ranchero kit has the "baddest Ford motor". It's a Chevy. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Al, In my opinion, forget the modern modulars. The 'blow-away' choices for a T-bolt are the 429 Boss Shotgun or the Cammer. Others can help you with what kits they come in. agreed Cato, but I have already put a blown shotgun in a 60 starliner, and the cammer motors I have those in a 66 fairlane, a 32 hiboy and a 53 F100. really looking for more modern motor. those motors are killer, that is for sure..... although every cammer motor I have goes together poorly, except johans.... best ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Magna Boss Supercharged Ford Pro Mod Drag Engine Ross Gibson. Sounds like a winner in the Thunderbolt http://www.modelroundup.com/product-p/rge-607.htm never used a Gibson motor. have a hard time paying for a motor that costs more than a kit. it is a killer motor, not very street worthy though. when I build a thunderbolt pro mod, I will give it a thought. hey, when I make it back to a NCAM meeting there in Garfield, I will be sure to say "HI" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) I think it's really cool to do a swap for something modern or race. How about an older (not old old) cosworth? where in the world would you get one of those. I remember them putting those motors in Vegas. cool thought. I will consider it. Edited June 26, 2014 by tubbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 For a modern Ford engine, I'd go with the Coyote 5.0 from the '12 Revell Boss 302 kit, or the 5.4 from the '10 Revell Shelby kit... thanks Rob, this is more in line with what I am looking for. I figured we would be hitting the Mustang gamut, but there are so many of them, I can't keep them straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) where in the world would you get one of those. I remember them putting those motors in Vegas. cool thought. I will consider it. Not the Vega 4cyl, I would think he means the Cosworth-Ford V8.... Various Indy and F1 car kits have them. Not sure which would be the most 'recent'--they were still in use into the 80s. A '60s vintage one in a '60s car would definitely be an interesting build... Edited June 26, 2014 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Since you asked about a "modern" engine, I'll answer your actual question rather than try to tell you what you should build. Rob's right about the "Coyote" being the most modern. The Boss 302 version is factory rated at 444hp. Possibly more readily available is the older 4-cam engine, and it will make some serious horsepower. The Ford "modular" 4.6 litre 4-CAM, 4-VALVE PER CYLINDER V8 was last available from Ford in the 2004 Mustang Mach I, rated at 310hp. An iron-block version of the same engine, but supercharged and rated at 390hp, came in the 2003-4 SVT Mustang Cobra. Konigsegg thought enough of the engine to put a twin-supercharged version of it, rated at 806hp, in their CCR. A pretty decent modular 4-cam is available, usually cheap, in the AMT Phantom Vickie kit. The engine isn't supercharged, but it's not hard to make something up. It also has a not-too-accurate 5-speed manual gearbox. The rest of the kit is a great parts donor, with a nice independent front suspension setup that easily adapts to other cars, nice wheels and tires, a generic repop '32 Ford frame and other '32 bits. thanks Bill, I figures you be right in the money with my question. lots of info in your post, I love that Boss 302, but I think I want more motor showing that covers, if you know what I mean. that second motor is really sweet, I have a phantom Vickie kit somewhere in my stash, but if I can find that second motor, that would be the one. that CCR (doesn't that stand for Creedence Clearwater Revival? sorry, bad joke), anyways, that is one wild car. not much inro those type of supercars, so I googled it, man, some wild stuff came out. I am in the process of putting a Ferrari motor in an olds. Toronado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Without a doubt, the supercharged 5.4L 540HP engine in the Revell 2010 Ford Shelby GT 500 is the baddest motor out there. Flipping back through the thread, I see that Rob Hall mentioned it. With a bit of modeler's license, you could probably call it the 660 HP motor from the 2013 GT 500.... For pure power, you probably won't find anything better. thanks Jim, you know, I think I had one of these kits and traded it? murphy's law! happens every time. I will do some research on this one, I like to know a little about what I am building. I will mark this one down for sure. I have a 2010 Mustang GT with the 4.6 liter supercharged engine that donated it's body to my Mustang Pro Stock project boxed and ready to go. Everything but the body is there. Hit me a pm if you want it. The Petty Taledaga Toreno kit has two motors, a 429 and 427. You can't have either ;-0 Dale thanks Dale, PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 AMT's '60 and '61 Ranchero kit has the "baddest Ford motor". It's a Chevy. Scott AHHH Scott, your talking to a mopar guy here, if I am talking your language, obviously the "baddest ford motor comes in any dodge or Plymouth model kit and it called a "HEMI"..........hehehe....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 thanks for all your input and posts guys, got more responses than I thought. what a great forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitforbattle Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 where in the world would you get one of those. I remember them putting those motors in Vegas. cool thought. I will consider it. Not the Vega 4cyl, I would think he means the Cosworth-Ford V8.... Various Indy and F1 car kits have them. Not sure which would be the most 'recent'--they were still in use into the 80s. A '60s vintage one in a '60s car would definitely be an interesting build... Rob is spot on. Should've specified. A Cosworth-Ford V8 from an Indy or F1. Tamiya's made a few, got to be a Ford or two in the heap. Availability might be a problem. There's also a few Indy-kits, hasn't cosworth's been a long term partner with Dallara? Or why not try and get a hold of a Escort or Sierra Cossie... Have those been kitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 Rob is spot on. Should've specified. A Cosworth-Ford V8 from an Indy or F1. Tamiya's made a few, got to be a Ford or two in the heap. Availability might be a problem. There's also a few Indy-kits, hasn't cosworth's been a long term partner with Dallara? Or why not try and get a hold of a Escort or Sierra Cossie... Have those been kitted? HA-HA, gotcha guys, yea, I knew it all along, yea, that's right, i'm a jokester. yea that's the ticket, a jokester....., them cosworth-ford motors, jeez, I got you guys good....... this time I am not playing, i'm gonna google the Escort or Sierra Cossie before I stick another Vega in my mouth. thanks for steering me right fellas, and not walking thru the door since I left it wide open.... have a great day, Tubbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 (edited) Rob is spot on. Should've specified. A Cosworth-Ford V8 from an Indy or F1. Tamiya's made a few, got to be a Ford or two in the heap. Availability might be a problem. There's also a few Indy-kits, hasn't cosworth's been a long term partner with Dallara? Or why not try and get a hold of a Escort or Sierra Cossie... Have those been kitted? The Ford Cosworth DFV is an awesome motor no doubt. It is the winingest F1 engine of all time. The only kit source I am aware of in 1/24 scale is Fujimi's Dome Zero. Its a nice one though. Anyone else know of a kit/resin source for a 1/24 scale DFV? The Cosworths in the rally Escorts were in-line 4 cylinders. The engine is available in the ESCI MkII kits. Great engine but I don't think it would work so well in a heavy Thunderbolt. Edited June 26, 2014 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubbs Posted June 26, 2014 Author Share Posted June 26, 2014 The Ford Cosworth DFV is an awesome motor no doubt. It is the winingest F1 engine of all time. The only kit source I am aware of in 1/24 scale is Fujimi's Dome Zero. Its a nice one though. Anyone else know of a kit/resin source for a 1/24 scale DFV? The Cosworths in the rally Escorts were in-line 4 cylinders. The engine is available in the ESCI MkII kits. Great engine but I don't think it would work so well in a heavy Thunderbolt. thank you google.... and thank you JC for your input. I really like the Ford Cosworth DFV, but I have 2 questions. it seems like it is a rear engine car with a transaxle, would there be a problem hooking up a bell housing and a 4 speed to it? and to me, it seems like this would have a "road race" feel to it more than a "muscle" feel? do you understand where I am going? it may be better off in a G-machine or pro touring car rather than a stop light to stop light car.... how do you think that Ford Cosworth DFV would look in a pro touring 66 fairlane? I am in the process of putting the motor from a Shelby series 1 in that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitforbattle Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 The Ford Cosworth DFV is an awesome motor no doubt. It is the winingest F1 engine of all time. The only kit source I am aware of in 1/24 scale is Fujimi's Dome Zero. Its a nice one though. Anyone else know of a kit/resin source for a 1/24 scale DFV? The Cosworths in the rally Escorts were in-line 4 cylinders. The engine is available in the ESCI MkII kits. Great engine but I don't think it would work so well in a heavy Thunderbolt. That's it, the DFV. Yum. And yeah, the in-line 4 cossies were cool engines. Maybe too small, but cool nevertheless. At least one Sierra exist, Escorts a few. Other cool newer race engines are the newer WRC Fiestas, also a tad small and "weak". Another that comes in mind are the engines in the GT40 and the new Ford GT1 racecar. SimilR does great kits of these, not sure about the quality of the engine though. Would be a pretty B-A story on how on earth you got an engine from a GT40. There is a Revell Bennetton B194 available... ... and Gunze Sangyo has made a B188 with the DFR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitforbattle Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 Then, there's also THIS kit, but this might be the only chance to get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted June 26, 2014 Share Posted June 26, 2014 AHHH Scott, your talking to a mopar guy here, if I am talking your language, obviously the "baddest ford motor comes in any dodge or Plymouth model kit and it called a "HEMI"..........hehehe....... Ah good.... I see somebody caught my sense of humor. I really have no dog in this fight. When it comes to Ford, I'm old school. I really like Ford flat heads. Problems and all. But, I know this is not where this question was intended to go. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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