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Hello all,

A few people suggested I try to sell some of my models to the public. I'm a little weary since I've been burned in the past from people saying they wanted stuff. When it came time to pay, they were long gone. The money and time that was lost was mine which was something I couldn't afford.

Add to that, I don't donate my time and I add that labor cost to the price of the model (why should I work for free?). I take into account all mold and resin costs, which drive the cost up.

Do you think these would sell at these prices?

Future Liner at around $400-$500 for a kit

14587450818_4bd95da9ac_c.jpgIMG_0536 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr

Corvair at around $100-$125

14788473002_7f9f18ba9c_c.jpgchevy-035 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr

Caprice at around $75-$100

14788826125_425b5742f5_c.jpgwip6 by dakota_in_the_sky, on Flickr

Please let me know what you think.

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Speaking for myself, I would say that those are unique subjects and might be priced out of reach for many modelers.

The Future Liner is a cool subject but not many people I know can spend $400 for a kit.

The Corvair is nice, but IMHO has a somewhat limited appeal.

The Caprice is probably your best shot at a good seller but keep in mind that Modelhaus does a similar Impala kit for $68.

Always good to see new subjects available, hope they do well for you.

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I myself just purchased and am waiting for the Modelhaus Impala. Therefore I would definitely be interested in your Caprice, but would probably only purchase one due to the high price. Depending on the detail, I might even go for a second.

From what I can see of the grill, that appears to be a 1980-1985 Caprice Classic. Is that what you're going for or will you be making the 1987-1990 Caprice? I can see the latter one definitely having much more appeal, as that was the police model.

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You could try selling/offering the Futureliner on a subscription basis, or just the front & back and let the modeler have at for the rest.

The Rampside has limited appeal for sure, but it seems to have a good base. Depending on the parts count, 125.00 doesn't sound too steep to me.

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GREAT subject matter....but folks complain at the MSRP now of regular kits so a tough sell. I made resin kits at one time. Tough to get folks to PAY for what they say they want.

I love the Futureliner but doubt I'd ever have that kind of cash for a kit.

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I gotta say . . .

I think the Futurliners (correct spelling, by the way) are as cool as anything that came out of the auto industry in the 50's. But, for $400-$500, I'll never own one. Even for $200-$300, I'll just keep looking at pictures.

I'd love to have a Corvair Rampside pickup, but I'm afraid the $100-$125 sticker is about 25% too high, at least for a resin caster without an established reputation for high quality, like Modelhaus/Promolite/MissingLink/GregWann.

And, the same response for the 80s-90 Caprice 'brick.' Modelhaus already does one, and at $90 it's pricey, even with their reputation.

Just sayin.'

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No interest in the caprice but the other two I'm game. I've purchased High End resin kits before from KFS and from the pictures you have shown of the other parts looks your quality is there so. IT looks like your making the molds and you know your target price. You may not recoup all your money on this deal. From the posters on this thread I think your marketing plans are off but I think you doing this for another reason, you like this stuff.... Hey so do I, well you will be able to recoup some of your money , time and investment because you can sell some copies. IT's a win for you. keep it going Robert, Sandy whatever your name is. I like it. drop me a PM if you decide to produce the kits.

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I would SO love to purchase both the Future Liner and Corvair but these are priced so far out of the range of possible I could only dream. This is not to say that I do not understand the cost of creating something like this, and also you needing to make it profitable.. But couldn't justify paying for than $50 or so dollars for a plastic model

Great work, that Future Liner is probably the coolest thing I have seen on here since joining.

I also think this could be a GREAT idea.

With all respect for your abilities and spunk, I don't think any of those would bring the prices you need.

Wonder how a "Startup" campaign would work?

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First off I would like to say the castings you've done on your Future Liner are Beautiful, no doubt you could probably sell a few and that would help defray your cost.

The trick is finding the right price. You may want to slightly de-content your projects to bring the cost down. Most builders can source car and light truck tires so there's no reason cast them. I would also suggest vacuum formed glass vs cast again to save on molding costs.

I would love to see both a 1/25th scale Rampside Corvair and 87-90 Caprice. If there done as well as what I've seen on the Future Liner you should have takers.

-Steve

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Thank you for your replies everyone.

Speaking for myself, I would say that those are unique subjects and might be priced out of reach for many modelers.

The Future Liner is a cool subject but not many people I know can spend $400 for a kit.

The Corvair is nice, but IMHO has a somewhat limited appeal.

The Caprice is probably your best shot at a good seller but keep in mind that Modelhaus does a similar Impala kit for $68.

Always good to see new subjects available, hope they do well for you.

Thank you Mike. Right you are, car modelers aren't as spendy as other genre builders.

I myself just purchased and am waiting for the Modelhaus Impala. Therefore I would definitely be interested in your Caprice, but would probably only purchase one due to the high price. Depending on the detail, I might even go for a second.

From what I can see of the grill, that appears to be a 1980-1985 Caprice Classic. Is that what you're going for or will you be making the 1987-1990 Caprice? I can see the latter one definitely having much more appeal, as that was the police model

Yep, going for the earlier one, but can easily update it with a few parts

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I don't think the Future Liner would sell at $400... Not many people are happy about spending $75 on a kit...

Right you are

You could try selling/offering the Futureliner on a subscription basis, or just the front & back and let the modeler have at for the rest.

The Rampside has limited appeal for sure, but it seems to have a good base. Depending on the parts count, 125.00 doesn't sound too steep to me.

That's a great idea. I did this with my Sp99 Eagle kit

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Yep, going for the earlier one, but can easily update it with a few parts

So you would include the 1987-1990 front fascia, correct side mirrors, the 1986-1990 rear end and associated badges, and steel wheels and center caps (I think that's it)? Or would this be a separate purchase that would have to be made to make a 1987-1990 police model?

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GREAT subject matter....but folks complain at the MSRP now of regular kits so a tough sell. I made resin kits at one time. Tough to get folks to PAY for what they say they want.

I love the Futureliner but doubt I'd ever have that kind of cash for a kit.

Thanks. That's a fact. I wish people would back up their words with some action

I understand the cost of making resin kits on your own, but I have a feeling that if you sold the Caprice at a lower price, you'd have yourself a real winner.

But why would I lower the price and loose my money and time? I'm not rich, nor a charity and I don't feel the need to give my my money and time away. I can sell a hundred for $20 but what good would that do me? Sorry if that sounds harsh.

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Maybe you should consider offering them as "paid in advance"models that you will only cast after the money is recieved rather than casting them first and waiting for them to sell.

That's a great idea. This happens a lot in the SciFy side. However the trouble with that is that there are delays. They take your money and you don't get a kit for a year. The worst was 7 years. They don't answer emails or give updates. I don't want that to happen to me nor would I want to do that to someone. I get nervous about holding someone else's money for too long.

No interest in the caprice but the other two I'm game. I've purchased High End resin kits before from KFS and from the pictures you have shown of the other parts looks your quality is there so. IT looks like your making the molds and you know your target price. You may not recoup all your money on this deal. From the posters on this thread I think your marketing plans are off but I think you doing this for another reason, you like this stuff.... Hey so do I, well you will be able to recoup some of your money , time and investment because you can sell some copies. IT's a win for you. keep it going Robert, Sandy whatever your name is. I like it. drop me a PM if you decide to produce the kits.

Thank you Vince. You're right. My marketing plan is this: I do this for myself. If someone wants one great, if not no problem. I just hate it when they ask for a kit and get mad when I say no or tell them the actual cost. Or say they'll buy it and eventually do not.

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With all respect for your abilities and spunk, I don't think any of those would bring the prices you need.

Wonder how a "Startup" campaign would work?

Thank you! I think a startup would only work with a builtup which is what I may end up doing.

First off I would like to say the castings you've done on your Future Liner are Beautiful, no doubt you could probably sell a few and that would help defray your cost.

The trick is finding the right price. You may want to slightly de-content your projects to bring the cost down. Most builders can source car and light truck tires so there's no reason cast them. I would also suggest vacuum formed glass vs cast again to save on molding costs.

I would love to see both a 1/25th scale Rampside Corvair and 87-90 Caprice. If there done as well as what I've seen on the Future Liner you should have takers.

-Steve

Thank you Steve. I'll try that. Also may try a one peice body instead of opening sides

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But why would I lower the price and loose my money and time? I'm not rich, nor a charity and I don't feel the need to give my my money and time away. I can sell a hundred for $20 but what good would that do me? Sorry if that sounds harsh.

I don't know the exact economics of making resin items so I won't pretend otherwise. You're the maker and you ultimately decide what a fair price is in relation to the time and financial investment you put in. I was not suggesting you lower the price to some low amount because we're all cheap. As a potential customer, all I'm saying is that I would be hard-pressed to buy more than one of your items at that price. That is all. I am primarily interested in police car models and I know a lot of guys out there who have been desiring a late 90's Caprice. Using the example of the Modelhaus Impala: Despite it's excellent reputation and quality, many have been hesitant to purchase that model due to the price, and it's cheaper than what you might potentially offer your Caprice. So again, you go with the price that you think is fair. I'm just giving you my humble perspective, that's all.

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So you would include the 1987-1990 front fascia, correct side mirrors, the 1986-1990 rear end and associated badges, and steel wheels and center caps (I think that's it)? Or would this be a separate purchase that would have to be made to make a 1987-1990 police model?

Not saying I would offer this, but for my own, I would have separate fronts and rears with the body (either early or late). No badges since that's hard to finish on a printing. No wheels

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I don't know the exact economics of making resin items so I won't pretend otherwise. You're the maker and you ultimately decide what a fair price is in relation to the time and financial investment you put in. I was not suggesting you lower the price to some low amount because we're all cheap. As a potential customer, all I'm saying is that I would be hard-pressed to buy more than one of your items at that price. That is all. I am primarily interested in police car models and I know a lot of guys out there who have been desiring a late 90's Caprice. Using the example of the Modelhaus Impala: Despite it's excellent reputation and quality, many have been hesitant to purchase that model due to the price, and it's cheaper than what you might potentially offer your Caprice. So again, you go with the price that you think is fair. I'm just giving you my humble perspective, that's all.

Glad to hear your perspective. If this gets enough appeal, I might just loan the body to a caster who can sell it at a better price (As long as I can get what i put into it). Thanks - Rob

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I would order the Rampside the price range is ok for a complete kit. When do you think this model will be available?

The Futureliner is a dream, but $400-$500 is expensive. I think if you can drop the price done to $300 there will be some guys ,including myself, who would buy it. There is one thing about the Futureliner: it is to special for the normal "average" modeler. So only a hand ful of modelers would spent even $300 for it.

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