Exotics_Builder Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Here is the VW Samba bus. Yes, the front body piece on the driver window side is broken, not short shot. The broken piece was in the bag and I'll look at gluing it on and posting a picture of the update later. I haven't checked for warpage, but not noticeable on the sprue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Forgot the decal picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Jerry, bein RoG, can I assume it's 24th scale?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotics_Builder Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Jerry, bein RoG, can I assume it's 24th scale?? Oh yes it is 1:24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Irwin Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 It looks ALOT like the old Revell kit from about 1958, the one that got butchered into the skaters van. Better detailing thoe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george 53 Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 Mighta used the same patterns but the old revell vans were 25th scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) I've got the original 59 issue 23-window (plastic tires, molded in orange), the 67-ish 21-window retool, the Hasegawa, and this thing. It is a completely new tool that kept all the annoying, fiddly things about the original bus, and added some detail, but certainly was disappointing when I looked at it. Can't use it for parts to restore other buses, and it has the incredibly annoying door-side multi-piece assembly. It looks smaller than the hasegawa, and marginally bigger than the originals. Maybe 1/24.5, didn't care enough to measure. I have no idea why they did it the same way a 1959 kit was engineered, especially when they could have stomped Hasegawa and had made 23 and 21-window and barn-door versions possible. I hate it when people trash a kit, but it looks like they just reverse-engineered the '59 tool and added some details where it doesn't really matter. I'll be amazed if anyone builds one of these. I put it back in the box, will use it for detail parts for my originals. Nostalgia isn't what it used to be. PS-rear wheelwell openings are horrible. Best part of kit is the decals and the closed soft top. Edited November 14, 2009 by keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelmartin Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 I noticed the 2 different sets of bumpers??? Euro and US ??? or different years???? The only thing I see that I don't groove on is lack of engine detail and decals for the beltline trim. The rest looks nice. I will get one to throw on the pile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) I noticed the 2 different sets of bumpers??? Euro and US ??? or different years???? The only thing I see that I don't groove on is lack of engine detail and decals for the beltline trim. The rest looks nice. I will get one to throw on the pile. US bumpers have over-riders on them, Euros don't. http://www.busselecta.com/bus/ This is a great site too for most the other body styles. http://www.volkswarenhaus.de/bugselecta.htm Edited November 14, 2009 by keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 PS The rear wheelwell openings are horrible ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) ???Rear wheelwells look too tall compared to trim strip on lower side of van. Your pic makes them look better to me , but here's another photo with stock ride height. They looked long too, but relations to window and side vent look OK. Guess I was too negative  when I compared the 4 kits. Front wheelwells have far more space between them and front door bottom edge, maybe that made rears look worse. Thanks Luc Edited November 14, 2009 by keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styromaniac Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Oh yes it is 1:24 I own a couple of the Revell "Volkswagen Bus" kits released in 2001...1/24th scale kit # 85-2355 ..which I am told are knock-offs of the Hasegawa kit. They have nice one piece bodies which I easily opened the side doors and engine/trunk lids ..they are semi-curbside in that they don't have the complete engine...just a rendition of the bottom part of the engine. The interior detail of the Revell/Hasegawa bus is kinda clunky...the underside doesn't have much detail at all. If what you show here is accurate...and its 1/24th...then I might get one of these "new" kits just to compare the detail and maybe enhance one of the two other kits I already have. I'm not really a fan of multi-piece bodies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronw Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 So I take it the Hasegawa kits would be the ones to get if you want a microbus? Did anyone ever make the later style, we had a '72 bus when I was a kid but have never seen one offered as a kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Odd they went w/ a multipiece body on a new tool. That's one retro detail that should stay in the past, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) Odd they went w/ a multipiece body on a new tool. That's one retro detail that should stay in the past, IMHO. Hasegawa's one-piece bodies have no interior side panel detail; at least in any of the early "general" releases (I think there was a version w/printed paper decals one could use). I think they might have added something to the latest versions. They're much simpler curbside kits than Revell's, and they have incorrectly slotted wheels. Revell reboxed the Hasegawa kit for awhile, so this will be the third completely different tooling Revell has sold of the 23 window van. Also, the way the hinges are designed for the opening doors could not have been accomplished with a one-piece body. I'm going to keep an open mind about it as I build my example. It's intimidating up-front, but all the photos of finished models look excellent. Painting the body panels and having them all match, and then masking/painting the inner panels will be a bit of a chore. All the glass installs from the outside, and all the panel gaps are where they should be. My only question is why the front wheel openings (or the doors themselves) are a bit small as pointed out by Keyser, probably due to a flange issue where the body meets the floorpan. I have Franklin Mint's excellent version of this van (with working canvas sunroof, one of the coolest scale features I have ever seen in a production model) to crib some detail ideas from. Edited November 16, 2009 by Zoom Zoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry P. Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Front wheelwells have far more space between them and front door bottom edge... That's probably a good thing! If it was exactly to scale it would be a very fragile and easily breakable area. If you compare the kit to Luc's photo, the rear wheel cutouts look right on... I don't see anything "horrible"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 That's probably a good thing! If it was exactly to scale it would be a very fragile and easily breakable area. If you compare the kit to Luc's photo, the rear wheel cutouts look right on... I don't see anything "horrible"... Funny thing is, you look at the parts tree and see the wheel openings and they do look horrible. Then you look at the real van and realize you've been looking at those same horrible openings for decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The muilti-piece body scares me but it looks pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Most Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 The muilti-piece body scares me but it looks pretty good. That's putting me off a bit as well, but I'm just going to approach it one assembly at a time, like usual. I'm more worried about how I'm going to deal with the ejector pin marks on the inner door panels without ruining that beautiful cast-in detail! I've only seen the box-art models built up, but it looks like it has the potential to build up into a nice replica. With all those windows and doors that open, I'm sure the 'interior detail mongers' among us will put this on their must-build list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxer Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 (edited) I'm just passing the time waiting for that front VW emblem to rob and paste on the 56 Kombi in the paint shop. Hopefully it's not TOO big to use. The cast in Hasa one has been just too nasty to paint in the contrasting color. Then, ... who knows where it ends up! Edited November 16, 2009 by Foxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeBee Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 It's a shame hasegawa saw fit to put the wrong wheels and hubcaps in the kit, they are off a much later VW, these buses had drum brakes so didn't have the slots in the wheels, the newer revell version, which i purchased a few weeks ago, has to correct wheels and hubcaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtopNB Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Does anyone know what parts #124 L & R are suppossed to represent? I have spent some time under old VW busses and have never seen covers over(or under) the swing axles! Is this a European option of some kind, I think I will remove the pins and leave these off. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrObsessive Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 One question I have about this kit is this............Does anyone know which year this kit is supposed to represent?? 1962-'63? If I buy this one and decide to do a factory stock version, I want to get the exterior color correct and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtopNB Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 One question I have about this kit is this............Does anyone know which year this kit is supposed to represent?? 1962-'63? If I buy this one and decide to do a factory stock version, I want to get the exterior color correct and whatnot. The decals say it is a '62. I am using Tamiya Mica Red and Racing White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoom Zoom Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 The decals say it is a '62. I am using Tamiya Mica Red and Racing White. That should look pretty nice; beware though to paint all the exterior components that will be Mica red all at the same time w/the same number of coats since it's one of those colors that if you're a bit off, all the doors won't match the fenders & vice versa. Shouldn't be the same issue w/the racing white. I'm still pondering how I'll paint all the parts so they'll actually match. I'm going to go with something along the lines of the old "toothpaste green" and white that was common on them. I've ridden in one very much like it....neat vans. Crazy slow...but neat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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