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#1 Bernard Kron

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:26 PM

Looking through the Revell website the other day I saw this picture of their new Deuce 5-window kit promised for this spring (hah!). I noticed quite a few significant differences with the kits offered so far. I know people are saying it will include a hemi engine in addition to or in lieu of the small block Ford, but the picture, which shows a flathead engine similar to that found in the Sedan kit, also shows several other tasty features that would have the potential to make this kit an important addition to the lineup because of its potential as a parts source. I've highlighted those features below. Does anyone know anything about this?


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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:48 PM

I beleive that's a retouched photo of a real car, not a photo of a model so I don't think you can count on the released version to have all of those features. It would be nice to have a more traditional rod version of the Revell '32, so I do hope it does end up looking much like that photo. I'd like to see a more traditional wheel/tire set included though.

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:49 PM

Bernard, I'm hoping that the illustration is going to be a representation of the kit when it is released. If it is even close Revell will have hit a Home Run.

Edited by Fletch, 03 March 2009 - 07:50 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2009 - 07:52 PM

One reason I decided to ask and post this is because there's enough in that picture that resembles the sedan kit (the fat wires, engine, etc.) that I wondered if this was a next step evolution of the '32 series. I agree that it looks mighty like a retouched 1:1. If they actually went all the way to a kit that escaped the problems with the base '32 roadster kit from the late 90's it would sell like hotcakes, I'm sure!

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:22 AM

Though all of these parts would be very nice to have in scale, I'm afraid that the picture only shows the Kelsey Hayes wheels from the '32 Sedan retouched onto a picture of a real car...

However, if anyone from Revell is reading this, I think it would be great if this tooling finally got a stock firewall, "hairpins", and a backdated rear suspension!

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 08:21 AM

If R-M released the kit this way I'd buy tons of them!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 09:20 AM

This is Revell; I think you may be reading far too much into that photograph of a real car w/kit wheels and tires spliced in. Maybe they'll prove me wrong?

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 11:12 AM

Actually, what people were saying is that the kit would include an "early example of a hemispherical head engine," which, in all likelihood, means an Ardun.


Actually, that makes much more sense. It would permit them to essentially re-release the sedan kit with the 5-window shell and fail to deliver on all the other cool stuff I indicated above.

Thanx for a really depressing reality check, everyone! ;) :lol: :lol: :rolleyes:

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 11:41 AM

Actually, what people were saying is that the kit would include an "early example of a hemispherical head engine," which, in all likelihood, means an Ardun.


IIRC, the recent reissue of the Revell '50 Ford pickup has Ardun heads for the street machine version. Those would be neat parts in one of the '32s.

I've bought several of the Revell '32s for parts kits over the years, but always took out the Ford 302s out to use in '60s-70s cars, along with the 5-spoke wheels...probably will build them eventually w/ flatheads and vintage style wheels/tires.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:41 PM

I heard that a 392 hemi was going to be in the kit. With the flathead parts as well, As it is primarily based on the sedan kit. I would prefer a hemi over an ardun! Because the ardun parts can already be sourced from another kit. I hope Revell gets this one out on time (hah)I want a case of these.






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Posted 04 March 2009 - 02:35 PM

To be honest, I really don't care what else is in the box.....I just want a nice 5-window body.

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 05:07 PM

To be honest, I really don't care what else is in the box.....I just want a nice 5-window body.



Ditto!!

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 07:59 AM

Same here!
The pic raises a question about that, too ... that car has a chopped roof. Wonder if Revell will go that route, or stock height, like the 3-window and the sedan?
I may be in the minority, but I actually prefer the latter.


I agree that the roof should be stock height. The recent Merc shows what happens when the model company makes the aesthetic choice for us. It limits what we can do with it.

Also, this is another piece of evidence that the posted picture is quite likely poor evidence of what the actual release will be like. Bummer ... it's just a tease and not real information. :angry:

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 11:28 AM

BERNARD......repeat slowly....KITBASH....KITBASH....KITBASH.... :angry:

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 02:25 PM

BERNARD......repeat slowly....KITBASH....KITBASH....KITBASH.... :lol:

Kitbash (Parts Stash); Kitbash (Parts Stash); Kitbash (Parts Stash)

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 02:32 PM

I don't really think that's a valid comparison because anyone wanting to build a stock-bodied '49 Merc, or wanting to do their own bodywork, already had that option available to them in the form of the AMT kit, which was, and is, a perfectly good and serviceable model. What Revell did by producing its kit the way it did was give anyone wanting to build a chopped Merc the opportunity to do so without having to do perform a ton of bodywork or shell out for a pre-chopped resin body.
I, for one, appreciated Revell doing so, because I had wanted for years to build a chopped Merc, but lacked the skills to do the bodywork myself.
One could always argue, I suppose, that anyone who wants to build a stock-roof 5-window can always use the AMT kit, but, I think that argument falls apart when one considers how grossly inaccurate AMT's Deuce bodies are in comparison with Revell's.


I actually agree with what you say. But only because old AMT Merc kits are available in the auction market. Otherwise, we would be SOL. I think a chopped 5-window is far more problematic, since the AMT equivalent is not as easily available and, as you point out, not exactly the greatest replica around. I suppose I should be careful not to be snobbish and should, instead, appreciate the importance of Revell's commitment to our hobby and their chopped Merc in particular.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 03:59 PM

Same here!
The pic raises a question about that, too ... that car has a chopped roof. Wonder if Revell will go that route, or stock height, like the 3-window and the sedan?
I may be in the minority, but I actually prefer the latter.



I'm not convinced the Revell's '32 three window or (fairly) recent '32 sedan have stock height roof areas. The three window looks to have a slight chop, and I think the sedan looks that way as well. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

I have a fair amount of reference material for both body styles (in stock form), and I'd swear that they're both chopped (albeit slightly).

Let the debate begin !

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 06:06 PM

At least the '32 would be easier to chop than the Merc. Now I'm hopin for a new '34. I've been staring an old ZZ Top kit for a while and as badly as I want a '34 I just can't get over the problems with the two piece body.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:39 AM

OK, here's an update, direct from Revell's 2009 catalog. Obviously a pic of an actual model.

First, for us trad oriented rodder types here's the good news:
  • Hemi engine with nice headers and 2 four barrels.
  • Steelies with chrome rings
  • Hairpin radius rods!
  • Moon tank
  • Nerf Bars
  • Wide whites (but see bad news below)
Now the bad news:
  • Same old funky firewall and single grill brace rod
  • Tires appear to be the same old wide width types offered on all the kits so far
  • No real clue regarding rear suspension - if you look carefully their might just be a hint of Ford style radius rods, but...
Still, as the expression goes, better than a poke in the eye...

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:44 AM

Revell's snap kit has the nicest '33-'34 coupe body ever tooled, IMO.


Isn't that one chopped though? Didn't Monogram have a 1:24th '33/34 3 window also? Seem to remember it released in black back in the '80s/90s...don't know if it was chopped. The only 3 window 33-34 kit I have is the '70s AMT issue.