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#1 David G.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 05:50 AM

Hi Everybody,

Over the weekend I Picked up the AMT re-release of the 1960 Ford Starliner. So far it looks like an excellent kit and I can't wait to get started on it.

My question is should the engine be gloss black as the assembly instructions call for, or should it be Ford engine blue? Of course, I realize that I could paint it purple and white if I wanted to, but I want it to be mostly accurate. I'm hoping that blue is correct, as a lot of the detail will be lost in black on black on black.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 05:59 AM

Hi Everybody,

Over the weekend I Picked up the AMT re-release of the 1960 Ford Starliner. So far it looks like an excellent kit and I can't wait to get started on it.

My question is should the engine be gloss black as the assembly instructions call for, or should it be Ford engine blue? Of course, I realize that I could paint it purple and white if I wanted to, but I want it to be mostly accurate. I'm hoping that blue is correct, as a lot of the detail will be lost in black on black on black.

Thanks,

David G.


I haven't seen any black ones.

I have seen a 1960 Starliner with 312 that was red and a 352 that blue.

Both presumed to be original.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 06:16 AM

maybe it was just the top of the motor.

I see now, they color coded the top on a black block in most cases, but you go back further and you start getting into blues and greens.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 08:14 AM

Thanks for all the feedback. It sounds like the engine will be black with gold valve covers, like the build sheet says.

There's also a T-Bird engine in the kit and they call that one out as black too. Since they were right on the stock one, they're probably correct on that one too.

With almost everything under the hood being black, I'm afraid all the wonderful detail that's on the engine will just disappear. Does anyone have any washes or drybrush techniques they'd like to share?

Thanks Again,

David G.

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 08:45 AM

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 08:55 AM

washes will definitely help, but sheen variations on the black will go a long way too. paint the engine gloss black as well as the generator. other parts like the inner fenders may be semi-gloss or satin black. the firewall in these cars i think should be body color.

washes will help bring details alive. since the engine will be black i'd suggest using maybe Testors rubber color as a wash on it since it's a dark brown. some of thier other colors like dark skin tone also work well as washes to make things look dirty but not excessively so.

one of my tips for painting engines is to first "prime" them with a metalizer color like stainless steel. seal that with either the metalizer sealer or dullcote and then paint the engine color over that. this way if any paint gets scratched or worn away during handling and assembly it looks like it's metal underneath the paint instead of white or grey plastic.

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Wow, thanks Dave!

Getting the wash and/or drybrush color right would've been one of my biggest concerns. I was thinking of a slightly lighter black or very dark gray for the wash or drybrush. Your suggestions for the gloss and satin finishes are a good idea too.

I built an AMT Batmobile years ago and mixed about four subtle shades of black for it to represent the various materials it would have been built with. That worked rather well and I was thinking of doing something similar with this engine. The different shades of black weren't something that most non-modelers would have picked up on right away, but it made what I call one of those "invisible differences" that sometimes seems to make all the difference.

Thanks again for the information,

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Posted 18 March 2010 - 08:57 AM

Thanks for all the feedback. It sounds like the engine will be black with gold valve covers, like the build sheet says.

There's also a T-Bird engine in the kit and they call that one out as black too. Since they were right on the stock one, they're probably correct on that one too.

With almost everything under the hood being black, I'm afraid all the wonderful detail that's on the engine will just disappear. Does anyone have any washes or drybrush techniques they'd like to share?

Thanks Again,

David G.


I think that was the part that was blue for a 352: valve covers and aircleaner.

This is supposed to be a 1960 Starliner with a 352

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And this one is supposedly a 1960 with a 312

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And gold was a special.

Edited by CAL, 18 March 2010 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 18 March 2010 - 11:35 AM

My guess would be to contact someone in the "Nifty - Fifties Ford Club . They have several chapters around the country and if I can just find the H Q address, Ill e-mail it to you . Ed Shaver

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:24 AM

I know this is an old post, but as an owner of a 60 Starliner and a big fan of 60 Fords in general I can tell you that the 300 horsepower 352 4 barrel "THUNDERBIRD" engine has a black block and heads with med. Ford blue valve covers and air cleaner. The special 352 c. i. 360 horsepower engine that comes in the kit had black block and heads with gold valve covers and air cleaner.

 

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

I ended up going with the black block and gold valve covers. So I guess it's a special 360 hp 352 ci... ;)

 

Here's a picture.

 

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And one of the finished car:

 

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This kit was great fun to build! I may do another one some day, so I may still have the chance to put your tip to use.

 

Thanks,

David G.