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#1 006

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Posted 09 April 2010 - 03:02 PM

I just got the new release of the Monogram Ford F-250 "Super Duty" pick-up. If you lay the box down on a table with the front facing up, the left half of the long sides protrudes on both sides. It looks like the body might have been packed that way... not sure. Did anyone else get this kit and notice the same thing? Was everything ok inside when you opened it? I bought my kit for use in a trade so I can't open it. I just want to be sure what I noticed was normal.

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Also, is pick up an 88?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:05 PM

anyone?

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Posted 10 April 2010 - 12:30 PM

I'm not really understanding the question.
THe box it came in doesn't look Square?
my box looks fine.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:55 AM

Yeah, my box was fine too (as you can see in my review thread). Also, it can be from anywhere between '87 and '91, though I believe the copyright stamp says 1991, so that's what I'm claiming it as.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:49 PM

Only thing I found wrong is that it has a 4x4 decal and it is
a 2 wheel drive truck am I missing a axle or is it only
2 wheel drive? My kit is ok other than that

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:53 PM

Only thing I found wrong is that it has a 4x4 decal and it is
a 2 wheel drive truck am I missing a axle or is it only
2 wheel drive? My kit is ok other than that


Yeah the kit is supposed to be 2WD with no 4WD setup offered. Granted it does make them oddly placed, but they are great if you convert it to a 4WD (like I am), or if you want to pretend it's a 4WD.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:57 PM

Only thing I found wrong is that it has a 4x4 decal and it is
a 2 wheel drive truck am I missing a axle or is it only
2 wheel drive? My kit is ok other than that

No, you are NOT missing anything. These kits, the F250 or F350 dually, have never been a 4X4, I don't understand the "4X4" decal, either! That is one thing holding up my build of my 1:1 scale dually,

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no 4X4 and no diesel engine!

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 02:59 PM

How can I convert it cheap? I am on a budget and dont have
the money to buy the ones I find online. I was told at hobby
shop it was a 4X4 that is why I bought it

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:12 PM

How can I convert it cheap? I am on a budget and dont have
the money to buy the ones I find online. I was told at hobby
shop it was a 4X4 that is why I bought it

If you have any spare axles like a Dana 60 froma muscle car in your parts box, that may be a start. The idea I have for making my 1:1 truck is using the spare stock Dana 60 axle that was included in AMT's 1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee Pro Street kit and redoing the axle tubes to make it a front drive axle. On the F250, though, if you can find a front axle from Monogram's old Ford Bronco kit (ask in "Wanted", someone may have one), you may be able to use it. The F250s could either have a solid or independent front suspension on the 4X4, so either would be correct. My 1:1 has the solid axle because it was a heavy duty. Also, Gary, if you need any detail pictures of the front end of my F350, just let me know and I'll go out to the driveway and get some for you.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:25 PM

Yeah that might work have to see what i have in my partsbox
want a solid axle that is heavy duty. Thinking of making it a
tow rig for my F150 Flareside 4X4. Send some pics it might help
me see what to do on my model

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:34 PM

Yeah that might work have to see what i have in my partsbox
want a solid axle that is heavy duty. Thinking of making it a
tow rig for my F150 Flareside 4X4. Send some pics it might help
me see what to do on my model

Ok, I'll PM you some pics tomorrow, just don't mind the grease and leaking oil!!

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:47 PM

Thanks will look for them think i migh try to make a axle for it
I also have to dig and find my transfer case in a box of models
packed fro a move after the college quarter is over.

That is ok understand that vehicles have leaks my car has a few
worst is the oil been sitting broke down since October and I just
checked the oil and it is so low I can not find it.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 03:50 PM

Thanks will look for them think i migh try to make a axle for it
I also have to dig and find my transfer case in a box of models
packed fro a move after the college quarter is over.

That is ok understand that vehicles have leaks my car has a few
worst is the oil been sitting broke down since October and I just
checked the oil and it is so low I can not find it.

That's not good! Of course, my truck has a diesel, so when it needs oil, it takes a gallon!! Luckily it holds three gallons!

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:11 PM

Zuk & others;

what I mean is.. when I feel along the long sides of the box, I can feel and see some protrusion; it seems like a tree, perhaps, is pushing against both sides. Did anyone else notice that?

That was a good review and I liked the pics too, YJ.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:22 PM

Zuk & others;

what I mean is.. when I feel along the long sides of the box, I can feel and see some protrusion; it seems like a tree, perhaps, is pushing against both sides. Did anyone else notice that?

That was a good review and I liked the pics too, YJ.

I haven't got the new F250 yet, but I have a newer issue of the Dodge Ram VTS that does the same thing. The sprue is just a little bigger than the box they put the VTS in.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 05:56 PM

well ya better open it up and square it away.
sometimes things shift in shipping..
Maybe nothing but better safe than sorry.

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 06:05 PM

On the solid axle 4x4 F250 and F350s is the front axle the same as the rear?

Matt if you take the photos of your truck, I'd be interested in seeing them too, maybe you could post them here or in the 1-1 reference?

Thanks

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:32 PM

On the solid axle 4x4 F250 and F350s is the front axle the same as the rear?

Matt if you take the photos of your truck, I'd be interested in seeing them too, maybe you could post them here or in the 1-1 reference?

Thanks

No problem, Aaron, I enjoy helping in any way I can, I'll send you a PM with the pics, too. I may also post them in 1:1. As for your question on the front and rear axles, it really depends on how the truck was spec'ed. The Haynes manual I have for 80-95? Trucks and Broncos has about three or four front axles and about the same rear axles (I think) described, I'll get it out tomorrow to check for sure. I think for the F350 the book said it have a Dana 60 Monobeam (which is the straight axle) in front and anywhere from a Dana 60, Dana 70, or a Ford 10.25 (10.25 for 10.25 inch ring gear) in the rear. I think the one in the Revell/Monogram kit is the Ford 10.25, I'll also check in the morning on that, but it looks very similar to the rear axle in my 1:1. These are not the greatest pics, I'll have better and more detailed for you later, but shows the comparison of the front and rear axle center sections.

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Rear Ford 10.25:

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And, as I told Gary, don't mind the oil leaks!

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:02 AM

So the front diff is centered? That certainly makes it easier to use an axle from another kit, the off center ones require a lot more fiddling with.

Guess I need to find a kit with a Dana 60 to borrow.
Thanks for the pics, if you take somemore something with a little more of a side angle of the springs would be nice, thanks.


Your comment about the oil reminded me of a funny experience. I started my career as a volunteer firefighter, and one of our engines had a Detroit 8V71 in it. So one of the newer guys notices during a check that the motor is low on oil, it is a little below the 1 qt line, so he adds a quart of oil and calls it good (doesn't recheck the dipstick). The next week he finds it is at the 1qt low line again and the truck had only been driven something like 10 miles, so he called the Chief thinking the truck was seriously burning oil and very sick, that is when we were all taught that Detroit Diesel marks the dipstick with 1 gallon increments and use something like 11 gallons of oil at an oil change.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 06:21 AM

So the front diff is centered? That certainly makes it easier to use an axle from another kit, the off center ones require a lot more fiddling with.

Guess I need to find a kit with a Dana 60 to borrow.
Thanks for the pics, if you take somemore something with a little more of a side angle of the springs would be nice, thanks.



No, the front diff sit to the drivers side, Aaron. I'm getting ready to go out and get you and Gary the better pics now, but here's a not so good one from the front:

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