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Poll: Airbrush. single or dual action? (57 member(s) have cast votes)

what is your favorite all around modeling airbrush of choice. Singe action, dual, other?

  1. Single action. (19 votes [31.15%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.15%

  2. Voted Dual action. (39 votes [63.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.93%

  3. I only use spraycans. (3 votes [4.92%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.92%

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#1 DrewCfromSC

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:05 PM

starting to look at airbrushes for modeling. What do you use, single action or dual? Like about the features etc?
Thanks for your replies.
Drew from S.C.


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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:27 PM

I have pasche VL and a Iawata dual action. Also have a Badger 200 Single action. I like the dual action as you can control thr flow of the paint.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 04:45 PM

Depends on what I'm doing, though lately I use primarily dual action. I prefer the increased control of the dual acton. That's not to say the single actions are bad or that you can't get good results from them. I know of several builders that only use singe action and certainly do much better than I can.
As far as brand/model suggestions, you can't go wrong with the Paashe Model H/HS for a single action. The only difference between the H and the HS is how the bottle attaches, the H is a friction fit, the HS has a retaining nut. In dual actions, the the Paasche Model V is a good one, and is my personal weapon of choice. The Testors Aztec is OK, too, but I find the tips can be a pain to work with, as the have to be just so in order to work properly. Also, in the case of the one I have, the dual action mechanism had a pin snap, and it now binds up. With the way it's made, repairs are difficult. It's not really meant to be dissassembled. I also have some of the Harbor Freight Central Pneumatic $20 dual actions, I've only used them once. The seem to be a decent unit, very similar (in some aspects, identical) to the Iwata airbushes. It worked well, but the paint job turned out poor due to my own experimentations, not the airbrush itself. I will try it again, though I did get it primarily to use for applying primer.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:41 PM

The first airbrush I ever bought was a used Paasche VL (dual action). To me, being able to control the amount of air and paint simultaneously make it a far better choice than a single action. If you have a Hobby Lobby and one of their 40% off coupons, that same VL can be had for a ridiculous amount of money. A little internet shopping will uncover some fantastic bargains as well.

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 05:56 PM

There are varying schools of thought here, but I prefer the simplicity of a single action airbrush and have done nice paint jobs using a $15 Testors basic airbrush. Send me a PM if you want a dual action Paasche VL as I have a brand new one that has never been used. I'll make you a good deal on it. :rolleyes:

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Posted 05 July 2010 - 09:18 PM

Hi I too am looking into airbrushing? I'm watchen this one on eBay.co.uk is this a good one? Barring in mind am just a basic amature builder?300441560141 that's the number of the item. Sorry can't post a link as I'm on the iPhone at the moment. Thanks

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:03 AM

I have pasche VL and a Iawata dual action. Also have a Badger 200 Single action. I like the dual action as you can control thr flow of the paint.


Thank you for your thoughts. Kinda overwelming the items since my last time building about 20 years ago!

The first airbrush I ever bought was a used Paasche VL (dual action). To me, being able to control the amount of air and paint simultaneously make it a far better choice than a single action. If you have a Hobby Lobby and one of their 40% off coupons, that same VL can be had for a ridiculous amount of money. A little internet shopping will uncover some fantastic bargains as well.


Great info from you. Thank you so much! Where can I find a coupon for Hobby Lobby. I dont have aworking printer at home but do at work! Thanks for all the inf. Drew from S.C.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:10 AM

Feel free to post your favorite airbrush you use as well as EZ to repair or find replacement parts.
Thank you for helping out a newbie and have a little fun too!
Drew from S.C.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:43 AM

I've been using an Aztek single action airbrush for a few years and have always got a good finish with it. Recently picked up a couple of Spraymaster dual action airbrushes and whether its the learning curve but I'm finding that my control is just not as fine as with the Aztek. But I would recommend gravity fed over suction for consistent paint flow.

I know you're in the US but this UK based site may offer some help http://www.everythin...avity_Feed.html . I've got the AB-130 and AB-132 (has removeable suction or gravity feed pots)


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Posted 06 July 2010 - 02:12 AM

I use a Bager 200 single action. When I investigated airbrushes a few months ago, the Paache H series came up many, many times. I did a pricing check of a Paasche HSET and found Chicago Airbrush at the low end ($55.54), Tower Hobby ($54.99), TCP Global ($58.94), and Dixie Art ($59.95). I believe Chicago Airbrush had free shipping.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 06:36 AM

I have 9 airbrushes. They're all good for something. My workhorse is the Badger 175 Crescendo (siphon feed-I have 3 of them) and my Iwata HP-CS Eclipse (gravity feed). I also have a Paasche VL, Model Master (Aztek), Badger 150 IL, and the cheapest Testors airbrush.

Don't worry about having your airbrush spray a pencil line. You will hardly ever need it if you don't spray military paint schemes. I have a special airbrush just for this (small gravity feed, Rich AB200), and I hardly ever use it. I use it for windshield tint strips. The multi-tip airbrushes don't compare.

What have I learned? Buy the best one you can afford; you'll get great results with any number of airbrushes in all price ranges. Get one that is specifically made to handle automotive type paints (be able to handle the solvents, not just for waterbased illustration inks or paints). I would highly recommend getting a gravity feed airbrush rather than siphon feed; you will use less paint (by wasting less paint during cleanup), you will spend less time cleaning up after use...the siphon tubes require a lot of extra cleanup vs. a gravity feed brush, wasted paint, wasted thinner. Get one with a big cup, not a small cup. Compare at TCP Global, they have a line called "Master" which is a knockoff of Iwata for a lot less money. I intend to get one of their gravity feed airbrushes with pistol grip. I love the flow of the Badger Crescendo, even with the fine flow tip/needle it flows a lot more than my Iwata, but the Iwata definitely atomizes the paint better for fine detail and very thin coats; nice when using clear so it doesn't flood the surface...I'll start w/that airbrush laying down thin, fine layers and finish w/the Badger applying wetter final coats.

Grex airbrushes are loved by many. They have a gravity feed version w/pistol grip as well.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:04 AM

Thank you for your thoughts. Kinda overwelming the items since my last time building about 20 years ago!

Great info from you. Thank you so much! Where can I find a coupon for Hobby Lobby. I dont have aworking printer at home but do at work! Thanks for all the inf. Drew from S.C.


Hmmm, something weird's going on. Hobby Lobby's online site still shows some service parts for Paasches, but no airbrushes. They used to sell Iwatas, and like an idiot, I never used the coupon to take advantage of it. The 40% off coupon is offered every other week in their Sunday ad. It's down on the bottom right hand side of the page.

What are you going to run the brush off of? C02 tank? Air compressor?

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 10:55 AM

both single and double are good for painting but if you want more control i would get a double. i have the paasche talon and it works wonders and it is fairly cheap but make sure you get some spare needles cause my tip bent in a couple weeks but that was my first double action airbrush. and i am very happy i got it.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:51 PM

My one and only weapon is the Badger 175 (dual action siphon) as well. I've never had a problem with this airbrush and it does everything.
Need parts? Lot of places carry them, including Michael's Arts and Crafts. Now would be the time to print one of their coupons (50% off!) and pick up a 175.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:56 PM

I have 9 airbrushes. They're all good for something. My workhorse is the Badger 175 Crescendo (siphon feed-I have 3 of them) and my Iwata HP-CS Eclipse (gravity feed). I also have a Paasche VL, Model Master (Aztek), Badger 150 IL, and the cheapest Testors airbrush.

Don't worry about having your airbrush spray a pencil line. You will hardly ever need it if you don't spray military paint schemes. I have a special airbrush just for this (small gravity feed, Rich AB200), and I hardly ever use it. I use it for windshield tint strips. The multi-tip airbrushes don't compare.

What have I learned? Buy the best one you can afford; you'll get great results with any number of airbrushes in all price ranges. Get one that is specifically made to handle automotive type paints (be able to handle the solvents, not just for waterbased illustration inks or paints). I would highly recommend getting a gravity feed airbrush rather than siphon feed; you will use less paint (by wasting less paint during cleanup), you will spend less time cleaning up after use...the siphon tubes require a lot of extra cleanup vs. a gravity feed brush, wasted paint, wasted thinner. Get one with a big cup, not a small cup. Compare at TCP Global, they have a line called "Master" which is a knockoff of Iwata for a lot less money. I intend to get one of their gravity feed airbrushes with pistol grip. I love the flow of the Badger Crescendo, even with the fine flow tip/needle it flows a lot more than my Iwata, but the Iwata definitely atomizes the paint better for fine detail and very thin coats; nice when using clear so it doesn't flood the surface...I'll start w/that airbrush laying down thin, fine layers and finish w/the Badger applying wetter final coats.

Grex airbrushes are loved by many. They have a gravity feed version w/pistol grip as well.



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Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:09 PM

Thank you all. Ive painted a few real cars using SATA equipment and love the HVLP gravity feed guns. Great informtion here. You are all really helping me to narrow it down. Ok ive set aside $125 max for my airbrush. Thanks again!
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 01:19 PM

What are you going to run the brush off of? C02 tank? Air compressor?

Well, ive got a 60 gallon 5 horsepower tank in my garage of the house im selling? Was thinking of going a bit smaller but might just move it to my new house? I restored a few real cars and it did a good job with my SATA guns. HVLP was my favorite. Might be a bit overkill for a hoobby but its paid for.
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Posted 06 July 2010 - 02:38 PM

As an artist too my feel is generally a single action works good for general surface one color painting. (ie model bodies), dual action works good for intricate work for murals in art work and details in models. But it just depends on how much control you want over the flow of paint. I used a cheapie singleaction to paint a Supra and it looked pretty good.

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Posted 07 July 2010 - 05:47 PM

I own 2 Badger Crescendo airbrushes, love them so much I don't even worry about owning anything else. The first one I purchased has been with me for 15 years now and I have never had to change any parts on it. I have a backup with the other one which I purchased from Michael's using the 40% off coupon, got a great price on it! ;)

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:00 PM

Ok bought a Badger 175 Crescendo today at Michaels. Used the 50% off coupon and now looking for a compatible compressor. Any ideas what to look at. My budget will be under $200 range without a coupon.
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