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#41 Art Anderson

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 07:28 AM

1953 Hudson paint chips

And for the rest of the colors...

1952 Hudson paint chips
1951-52 Hudson paint chips

And, because there are very few differences between the 1951 and '52s, you could use '52 colors, too. The 1951s had some trim differences, and the 1950s had different grilles. Also, the Hornet didn't exist, however, with a little ingenuity, you could do a Commodore 6 if you wanted to.

Lastly, here's the 1953 brochure.

1953 Hudson full-line brochure

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Yup charlie! Dave and I have also conspired to dig out all the factory two-tone color combinations for both 1952 and 1953--those cars sure could get colorful in a hurry!

Now, just for grins and giggles, why not do some research, figure out how to convert one of these puppies to a Commodore 8? Hmmmm?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 09:14 PM

Yup charlie! Dave and I have also conspired to dig out all the factory two-tone color combinations for both 1952 and 1953--those cars sure could get colorful in a hurry!

Now, just for grins and giggles, why not do some research, figure out how to convert one of these puppies to a Commodore 8? Hmmmm?

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To make a Commodore 6 or 8 will be a challenge. The Hornet used a unique "wide-block," where the other Hudson engines had a wide lower part of the block, making the block to look something like an upside-down skeleton key. Come our next Hudson meet, I'll take a few pictures and post them so you can see what I'm talking about better.

For those wondering, Pacemakers, Super 6/8 and the Wasp were on shorter wheelbases with shorter overall lengths and slightly different interior patterns.

And for the record, the Hornet in 1953 had interiors in green, brown and blue. And yes, red with a green interior was a legitmate scheme. We have two Hornets around here in Toro Red with a green interior. The green interior is best achieved with Testors Beret green lighted about two shades with white. Testors flat brown will work for the brown interior and Testors Sea Blue, also mixed with just a hint of white to lighten it just a little will work.

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Posted 04 September 2010 - 01:12 PM

And for the record, the Hornet in 1953 had interiors in green, brown and blue. And yes, red with a green interior was a legitmate scheme. We have two Hornets around here in Toro Red with a green interior. The green interior is best achieved with Testors Beret green lighted about two shades with white. Testors flat brown will work for the brown interior and Testors Sea Blue, also mixed with just a hint of white to lighten it just a little will work.

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Thanks Chris! That's very helpful. How close do you think the maroon color on the roof and hood of this model would be to Toro Red? It's Tamiya Italian Red spray shot over Tamiya blue spray.
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 10:20 PM

Nice stock car. That burgundy is very pretty. I might try that myself.

A lot of people may not like this, but....

Toro Red is best duplicated with Testors Gloss Red enamel, despite its appearance in the paint chips, it's actually a bit brighter. If you feel adventurous, you might add a TINY amount of black to the red in an airbrush bottle and airbrush it, but the Gloss Red out of the spray can will be a pretty good representation. The burgundy should be ordered from MCW or ScaleFinishes. It's a weird color and I can't think of anything that'll really duplicate it well.

Honey Cream can be dummied up reasonably well with Testors Light Yellow Pla Enamel. However, as it doesn't come in rattle can, you'll need to airbrush it.

Yellow with the green is actually a very nice color scheme, especially with a black roof.

Charlie Larkin

Edited by charlie8575, 04 September 2010 - 10:29 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2010 - 03:20 AM

Toro Red is best duplicated with Testors Gloss Red enamel, despite its appearance in the paint chips, it's actually a bit brighter. If you feel adventurous, you might add a TINY amount of black to the red in an airbrush bottle and airbrush it, but the Gloss Red out of the spray can will be a pretty good representation. The burgundy should be ordered from MCW or ScaleFinishes. It's a weird color and I can't think of anything that'll really duplicate it well.

Honey Cream can be dummied up reasonably well with Testors Light Yellow Pla Enamel. However, as it doesn't come in rattle can, you'll need to airbrush it.

Yellow with the green is actually a very nice color scheme, especially with a black roof.

Charlie Larkin


thanks,again1 That's exactly what I (and I'm guessing others) are looking for in these early planning phases

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Posted 05 September 2010 - 03:55 PM

leno has a couple of very colorful hornets check his site,go for a ride in one..

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 07:34 PM

I think Hudson's only customers were engineers who knew a good thing when they saw it. Hud's sons were the first NASCAR champs, but everybody else thought they looked stodgy.

I want a '52 convertible in Symphony Blue Green Dark with a beige interior and wide whitewalls. Did the converts have leather?

A junior high school buddy's dad was very proud of his Commodore Eight in metallic brown. It was a real Miss Daisy, but I thought it was way cool because he always kept it sparkling clean and you stepped DOWN when you got in. It was sort of... channeled.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 08:02 PM

Hornet Convertibles all had leather interior. Usually, at least from what I've seen, it only came in red. I don't think I've ever seen another convertible interior color during the Fifties. Brown or blue might have been available, too. I'll see what I can dig up.

Hudson's customers were actually quite diverse. Teachers, engineers, bankers, tradesmen, and the list goes on. Hudon's primary competition was Buick, Olds, DeSoto and the more expensive Mercurys. Buick, in all reality, was their biggest target for price-point, but the "engineering" people- those that wanted features in their cars that usually went for an Olds or a DeSoto were also a considerable number of sales.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:21 AM

I ordered one yesterday from my LHS, Burbank House of Hobbies. They said we were lucky to get cars from Moebius, since their quality is so good. For a model on that level, the price is very reasonable too. Alas, he said they don't expect product until January.

I can't wait, I can't wait!!!!

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:02 AM

I think Hudson's only customers were engineers who knew a good thing when they saw it. Hud's sons were the first NASCAR champs, but everybody else thought they looked stodgy.

I want a '52 convertible in Symphony Blue Green Dark with a beige interior and wide whitewalls. Did the converts have leather?

A junior high school buddy's dad was very proud of his Commodore Eight in metallic brown. It was a real Miss Daisy, but I thought it was way cool because he always kept it sparkling clean and you stepped DOWN when you got in. It was sort of... channeled.


Just to clarify here: Hudson, from 1939 on, all the way to the end of Hudson production as an independent company, were unit bodies. Hudson called them "Monobilt" as in "built as if all one piece". Unlike today's unibodied cars which are built on a large stamped floor pan, a Hudson Monobilt car was built like steel railroad truss bridge, complete with steel beams in the A posts, roof sills, B-post, and C-pillar, all constructed on the fullest of full perimeter framing beneath the floor pan itself (all welded assembly). No frame members, save for a crossmember or so, was bolted into place, everything welded up as a unit.

With Hudson, the rocker panels are those outboard frame rails, and you literally stepped over those, then down as the floor wells themselves are well below the tops of those side rails. Hence the term "Step Down". In a car with a body shell channeled down over a separate frame, you in essence step up to enter the car, ergonomically the opposite of the Hudsons of 1949-54.

Hudson built those cars with a lower stance than all the others as well, but a couple of inches or so. Couple that with the engineering that was done in design, angling the engine/transmission downward to the rear, then using a two-piece driveshaft with U-joint in the middle, after which it angled up slightly to the rear axle gave those Hudsons an even lower floor, all but eliminating the driveshaft tunnel. This much lower floor meant a much-lower-than-other-cars seating position, resulting in a very low body height, making a stepdown several inches lower overall than any of its competitors. That translated into a radically lower center of gravity, making the cars much better handling than anything else coming out of Detroit.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 07:19 AM

Hornet Convertibles all had leather interior. Usually, at least from what I've seen, it only came in red. I don't think I've ever seen another convertible interior color during the Fifties. Brown or blue might have been available, too. I'll see what I can dig up.

Hudson's customers were actually quite diverse. Teachers, engineers, bankers, tradesmen, and the list goes on. Hudon's primary competition was Buick, Olds, DeSoto and the more expensive Mercurys. Buick, in all reality, was their biggest target for price-point, but the "engineering" people- those that wanted features in their cars that usually went for an Olds or a DeSoto were also a considerable number of sales.

Charlie Larkin



By and large, Hudson attracted the more affluent buyer, much as with Buick, Oldsmobile, Chrysler, DeSoto, even Packard Clippers and Lincolns of the first half of the 50's. However, the Hudson buyer tended to be, just as with Packard at the time, older, more conservative, and contrary to some advertising, not many people with young children. One had to look past the burgeoning V8 craze of the times in order to appreciate the fine road manners of Hudsons, coupled with their more-than adequate power from engines dating back longer than the legendary Ford flathead V8. The flathead 6's used in Hudsons (308cid in the Hornet, a slightly smaller flathead 6 in the slightly smaller, lesser Wasp) were almost legendary by the early 50's, having a characteristic not seen in any other carmakers offerings: Built in piston slap. Under hard acceleration and at high speeds (say in passing on those 2-lane blacktop roads of the time), those engines had the most purposeful yet powerful sounding "thumping" which meant that the pistons were moving (albeit in a controlled fashion) sideways in the cylinders, given the relatively loose setup, which was done on purpose. With horsepower ratings on the 7X Twin H-Power reaching past the 170hp mark, they were up there in a rarified league, only Cadillac and Chrysler's still-new Hemi approached that territory.

Couple that engine with Hudson's step-down design, and careful suspension design, Hudsons were truly cars designed for the Interstate Highway System, before that was even a gleam in Dwight Eisenhower's eye, and equally at home on the racetrack.

The only real problem with Hudson was, a relatively small dealership network, and an equally small company itself. They built perhaps the penultimate family touring sedans, but in doing so as built, far too costly to just restyle, even to build up an all new, more modern looking car after interest in late wartime streamlined styling had cooled off.

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 04:30 PM

great kit! I want one too, where can it be ordered?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 06:09 AM

Dave I am in Valparaiso. When are you looking at the Hudson and Chrysler 300 being available?

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:39 AM

Dave I am in Valparaiso. When are you looking at the Hudson and Chrysler 300 being available?


Not Dave, but I would guess late November on the Hudson, Chrysler C300 probably in late December. Both are in tooling right now, but there's always the test shot phase to go through before everything is finalized.

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:46 AM

Not Dave, but I would guess late November on the Hudson, Chrysler C300 probably in late December. Both are in tooling right now, but there's always the test shot phase to go through before everything is finalized.

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 06:20 AM

Art, both kits will be a welcome additions to any Replicia stock and Diorama builders such as myself . I'm always looking for the unusual to staff my ever growing line of service stations . I've been wanting to do a model of a White Tower Hamburger store . Both the Chrysler and the Hudson would make welcome additions . Ed Shaver

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Posted 30 September 2010 - 03:14 PM

At this time the Hudson is in tooling, and first test shots are due around the end of October....If and I emphasize IF everything goes to plan we should have kits shipping from the factory around the end of December..That would put kits in stores by the end of January or early February...
I say IF everything goes to plan because as often as not everything does not go exactly to plan...However I'm sure that we'll have Hudsons here early next year...
The C300 is running about 30 days or so behind the Hudson right now and the Lonestar is on the same approximate schedule as the 300....


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Edited by Dave Metzner, 30 September 2010 - 03:29 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:20 AM

Dave, I'm only aware of the Hudson and the Chrysler . Now you're refering to a "Lonestar" uh, whats that , a third kit? Ed Shaver

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 09:13 PM

Dave, I'm only aware of the Hudson and the Chrysler . Now you're refering to a "Lonestar" uh, whats that , a third kit? Ed Shaver


International Lonestar...big Class 8 Tractor

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Posted 06 October 2010 - 10:10 PM

I hope the people at Moebius realize what they're going to do to my poor checking account. LOL As much as I want the Hudson and the Chrysler, it's the Lonestar that i'm really anxious for.